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Buoys Pulled from Lockwood Folly Inlet
December 15, 2017 4:20 pm EST
Location: 33.436N 77.743W
Wind Dir: W (260°)
Wind Speed: 23 knots
Wind Gust: 27 knots
AT Ps: 29.93 in (1013.7 mb)
Air Temp: 63°F (17.2°C)
Dew Point: 47°F (8.2°C)
Water Temp: 67°F (19.4°C)

Buoys Pulled from Lockwood Folly Inlet
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: Buoys Pulled from Lockwood Folly Inlet Reply with quote

CG pulled the buoys.
'Use at your own risk.'

http://portcitydaily.com/2017/04/20/coast-guard-pulls-lockwoods-folly-buoys-tells-mariners-to-sail-at-their-own-risk/
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great management by Oak Island and Holden Beach, but at least we have an electric car charging station on Holden Beach.  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And millions of dollars worth of sand to wash away.  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unreal. Hope they get it sorted out soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oak Island and Holden Beach could care less about Lockwood, it generates few funds. Now, if they could put a toll booth there, interest might be generated ... eek  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposed to meet with the county, town of Oak Island, Holden beach and Army corp next week, about LWF. Not sure what is going to be accomplished but we are still working on getting it fixed.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan, ask them why they don't pump the sand from the inlet up on the beach to help rebuild the dunes. They wouldn't have to haul in has much sand from other places? Two birds one stone?  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would like to meet the mental wizard gov. official who initially decided to go straight out of LWF instead of down the OKI bank where the natural current is. Un-freekin believable. "Powers to be" didn't listen to Capt Mervin D and others back then, good luck Pin !
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking a few civil war wrecks are confounding the choice of where to dredge. Haven's researched it, but I bet the need for nearly annual maintenance didn't change much whatever the location ... chin  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curmudgeon wrote:
I'm thinking a few civil war wrecks are confounding the choice of where to dredge. Haven's researched it, but I bet the need for nearly annual maintenance didn't change much whatever the location ... chin


They were supposed to be maintaining last year is what we were told from the county. I called him out on it at the last county meeting, but they need to figure out what they are going to do now. Private pipe dredge has been discussed from the county, but they think that the feds will bail us out. The feds quit giving money a few years ago and the county, local and state are now responsible. They need to figure it out on their own.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Federal $ had to come from federal waters ! Go figure on that one 3 miles out and I agree with you the folly is a hazard , if I get in need response time is twice as far  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And further more how man smart card do we see at Holden  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And further more how man smart card do we see at Holden cars my bad  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they planning to address the giant shoal on the back side by Browns Landing? The inlet cutting straight out is what is dumping that sand back there. The flow of sand naturally now creates a flood tide delta in the back of the inlet. Over many years a straight out cut will create the same inlet shape as Browns Inlet in Onslow.

I can't image anyone has an issue with the old inlet and civil war wrecks. Those wrecks happened when that inlet was cutting its natural path to the east in front of Oak island. So if you allowed to to follow that same path, there should be no wrecks disturbed by dredging.
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lockwood folly inlet, meeting will be held 4_25_17 at 4 pm commission Chambers on 1st floor of David r sandifer co administration building the presentation will include several possible options to re-establish a navigation chanel thru Lockwood folly inlet outer bar the meeting is open to public  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This come from. Steve stone deputy co manager of Brunswick  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't maintaining dredging one of the States so-called reasons for increasing boating registration a few years ago?  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fishing-misfit wrote:
Wasn't maintaining dredging one of the States so-called reasons for increasing boating registration a few years ago?


yes, but the good people of NC chose to go a different direction with their govenor, and whether he will honor the states side is another question, also the locals are supposedly having to match the state in dollars to get to those dollars, and that isn't happened, there is change in the air, this new crowd down here prefers electric cart refueling stations and turtle watching to fishing and boating.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard holden was willing to put up there side of the money but oak island refused to? That true??  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zigzag wrote:
fishing-misfit wrote:
Wasn't maintaining dredging one of the States so-called reasons for increasing boating registration a few years ago?


yes, but the good people of NC chose to go a different direction with their govenor, and whether he will honor the states side is another question, also the locals are supposedly having to match the state in dollars to get to those dollars, and that isn't happened, there is change in the air, this new crowd down here prefers electric cart refueling stations and turtle watching to fishing and boating.


Cooper has nothing to do with it. Money is allocated for dredging but must be met with dollar for dollar from locals.
http://www.northcarolinasportsman.com/details.php?id=3620

As we lower taxes at the state and national level, we are losing the ability to fund projects like dredging, unless we tax something else...like boater registration. I have tried to find how the Shallow Draft Navigation Channel and Lake Dredging Fund monies have been used and the balance in the fund, but cannot. Both Oak Island and Holden would have to agree to split the cost and match the 1 for 1 for the fund dollars to be used for dredging Lockwood. Holden has a mess on their hands with the $10mil bond for beach renourishment washing away with hurricane matthew. I also do not understand why dredging sand cannot be used on the beach, but there is probably some CAMA rule that prohibits this. Its a bunch of local, state and federal governments and agencies involved so entails a bunch of studies by all that cost a fortune, nobody can agree, and a bunch of wasted money. Nobody can agree and nothing gets done. Common sense washed away and is buried deep in the ocean while regulation and waste are shoaling the inlets.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, how do the commercial folks at Varnamtown get out to sea now?
Also, as far as what sands can be used for beach renourishment, some years back I read that the folks at Coastal Carolina U. were making some kind of decisions as to what offshore areas could be dredeged for Horry County renourishment due to the cohesiveness of certain types of sand grain particles. Do sand analyses play into what is occurring at LF Inlet or is this more bad science?
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how people on here complain about the government wasting money on a car charging station that will last for probably 10 years while wanting to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to move sand that will just come back within a few months.
There is no bigger waste of money than dredging inlets.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

straps57 wrote:
Funny how people on here complain about the government wasting money on a car charging station that will last for probably 10 years while wanting to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to move sand that will just come back within a few months.
There is no bigger waste of money than dredging inlets.


Agree that's its a waste of money that will not solve the problem. Only long term solution is jetty the inlet and that will not happen in my lifetime. If you jetty, then either sand is going to erode on Oak Island or Holden side and oceanfront home owners will raise hell. Permanent fix is to not build at the coast, sell boat and offshore fishing stuff, buy house in mountains and take up trout fishing.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol No benefit to having open inlets?  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no bigger waste of money than dredging inlets.

Yeah, nothing wasted on charging stations for golf carts at taxpayer expense, why, goodness, think about all the use they'll get from September to May ... eek
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just asking if no inlet is dredged then what no get out to ocean ?  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Dredge inlet, the Cape Fear will get awful busy!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stackchaser wrote:
straps57 wrote:
Funny how people on here complain about the government wasting money on a car charging station that will last for probably 10 years while wanting to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to move sand that will just come back within a few months.
There is no bigger waste of money than dredging inlets.


Agree that's its a waste of money that will not solve the problem. Only long term solution is jetty the inlet and that will not happen in my lifetime. If you jetty, then either sand is going to erode on Oak Island or Holden side and oceanfront home owners will raise hell. Permanent fix is to not build at the coast, sell boat and offshore fishing stuff, buy house in mountains and take up trout fishing.


The older I get the better your idea sounds. And I once hated the mountains.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mainly think of response time for emergency for all fishermen & just boaters that's all if I'm going to tower no problem, etc but they call cape fear for reason 😬  
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