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Piano Wires - Pros and Cons???
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Piano Wires - Pros and Cons???
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:30 pm    Post subject: Piano Wires - Pros and Cons??? Reply with quote

In the last few years I have fished on two charter boats that use very long leaders of piano wire. I fish quite often on five different boats and non of them use piano wire, we do just fine. Would someone help me understand the advantage of very long piano wire leaders.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It catches fish plain and simple. Caught mahi, wahoo, and tuna on it. My opinion is that it has more flexibility than single strand wire, which gives the bait more action. We have noticed a 2 to 1 advantage of it over cable and brown single strand. We were using 25+ ft, but it was a pain in the arse to leader the fish, so we decreased it to 10-15ft and haven't noticed a difference. it is real easy to rig on the boat too. also, haven't had a hoo to bite through the leader yet, strong stuff. hope this helps. fish on!!!!  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt.Barbosa wrote:
It catches fish plain and simple. Caught mahi, wahoo, and tuna on it. My opinion is that it has more flexibility than single strand wire, which gives the bait more action. We have noticed a 2 to 1 advantage of it over cable and brown single strand. We were using 25+ ft, but it was a pain in the arse to leader the fish, so we decreased it to 10-15ft and haven't noticed a difference. it is real easy to rig on the boat too. hope this helps. fish on!!!!

Thanks, glad to hear that shorter lengths work.
  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charter boats use it because it is dirt cheap....  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its cheap but doesn't last as long as stainless. Charter boats and guys who go A LOT get the most benefit from it. For rec guys who don't go as often, its is not as good because no matter what precautions you take it will rust before long.  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pro- piano wire has smaller diameter and less memory/not as stiff compared to same size stainless.

con- it is single use only, must re-rig after every trip
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been discussed quite a bit, but it is good for newer members to bring it up periodically.

Piano wire 100% of the time.

4 main reasons:

1. Stronger. Piano wire is about 10% stronger than the same diameter in stainless.

2. Visibility. Piano wire is less visible than the brown stainless wire when viewed from below as a fish does.

3. Cheaper. With an 18' leader it is hard to not kink it - stainless or piano - when wiring a fish. If you are going to throw it out after catching a fish, you can get a lot more out of a coil of piano wire.

4. But for me this is the most important point - baits pull better on piano wire! Piano wire has zero memory which allows the baits to pull straighter. Uncoil an 18' section of piano wire on the deck and then the same length of stainles - see which one lays straighter? Straighter wier = better swimming baits = more fish in the box.
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the info, looks like I will be converting and re-rigging on our next trip.  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what size can you still tie a haywire?
good source to purchase?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Ebbtide said....

Get our #9 wire from EJW
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CW66 wrote:
what size can you still tie a haywire?
good source to purchase?

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Should be able to twist a haywire in any size.
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intracostal angler in Wilmington is the only source near oak island that Iíve found.  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful with it. Apparently there were some bad batches floating around MHC last year. I unfortunately found some and lost a couple fish on it due to it breaking. It also rusts very easy. If you use it in the water it's done. If you keep it in a bag dry with Baby powder it will last for a little while but will still eventually rust. Other than that I don't get much multiple use out of any wire. Every now and then with a mahi or Blackfin I may be able to save a rig but if a Wahoo hits it you are going to have to change it whether it's stainless or Piano. Especially if you use long lengths and are wrapping to leader the fish. As far as why they use the long lengths its to get the swivels out of the water.  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a chart that shows the strengths of the various sizes of piano wire?  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kicker30 wrote:
Does anyone have a chart that shows the strengths of the various sizes of piano wire?


http://www.snlcorp.com/SNL/Tackle/wire.aspx
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

werewolf0711 wrote:
kicker30 wrote:
Does anyone have a chart that shows the strengths of the various sizes of piano wire?


http://www.snlcorp.com/SNL/Tackle/wire.aspx


Thanks.

Have y'all tried any lighter weights for king rigs?
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kicker30 wrote:
werewolf0711 wrote:
kicker30 wrote:
Does anyone have a chart that shows the strengths of the various sizes of piano wire?


http://www.snlcorp.com/SNL/Tackle/wire.aspx


Thanks.

Have y'all tried any lighter weights for king rigs?


I don't fish piano. I tried it for a bit and didn't see much use for me. I use AFW bright stainless offshore. Have kicked around the idea of using bright for kings in the light wires but haven't convinced my of it yet. Not matter which brand you go for make sure to use bright though offshore. It does seem to hide better in the water
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

werewolf0711 wrote:
kicker30 wrote:
werewolf0711 wrote:
kicker30 wrote:
Does anyone have a chart that shows the strengths of the various sizes of piano wire?


http://www.snlcorp.com/SNL/Tackle/wire.aspx


Thanks.

Have y'all tried any lighter weights for king rigs?


I don't fish piano. I tried it for a bit and didn't see much use for me. I use AFW bright stainless offshore. Have kicked around the idea of using bright for kings in the light wires but haven't convinced my of it yet. Not matter which brand you go for make sure to use bright though offshore. It does seem to hide better in the water


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Although I'm kicking around the idea of switching to stranded for both. So much more flexible.
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe I read that the great Wahoonbox switched to bright stainless.
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