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What's your go to rig for Yellowfin, Mahi and Blackfin???
What's your go to rig for Yellowfin, Mahi and Blackfin???
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What's your go to rig for Yellowfin, Mahi and Blackfin???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:38 am    Post subject: What's your go to rig for Yellowfin, Mahi and Blackfin??? Reply with quote

While we're waiting for the weather to come around are any of the more accomplished Offshore runners willing to share some insight as to what works for them? It can be a favorite spread detail, individual bait rig or lure, teaser/spreader or anything you feel raises the predators.
I plan to trailer up to a the Straits early April and fish the Big Rock area and maybe even head up Drum Inlet to Oregon Inlet in search of Yellowfin.
I welcome all the help/advice you can offer.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell you what almost every Oregon Inlet charter boat uses. Sea witch or islander/Ballyhoo on long mono leader with wind on swivel. Usually a squid chain of one on both short riggers. Mix of colors. They may switch a few colors, but not much. The basic strategy of their spread is put every line possible in the water for the conditions.

That simple. From what Iíve seen thatís their spread and they use it for everything. If they want to fish a weed line for Mahi in the morning then go to the Point for yellowfin and bigeye later the exact same setup goes in the water.
Only exception seems to be if they run into bailer Mahi.
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can tell you what almost every Oregon Inlet charter boat uses. Sea witch or islander/Ballyhoo on long mono leader with wind on swivel. Usually a squid chain of one on both short riggers. Mix of colors. They may switch a few colors, but not much. The basic strategy of their spread is put every line possible in the water for the conditions.

That simple. From what Iíve seen thatís their spread and they use it for everything. If they want to fish a weed line for Mahi in the morning then go to the Point for yellowfin and bigeye later the exact same setup goes in the water.
Only exception seems to be if they run into bailer Mahi.


Yep, that's right! wtg
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We troll whole squid behind seawitches/Islanders and squid chains with same rigs behind them. No flouro. Just mono. We like to target everything we can and this setup works great for us.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Seapro180" how do you rig whole squid for trolling?
What lb mono do you recommend for Tuna?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I misunderstand, but Drum Inlet might be a challenge in your rig without some local knowledge.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clark wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstand, but Drum Inlet might be a challenge in your rig without some local knowledge.


A 26 foot boat? Not a problem. See skiffs out of there quite regularly. Now getting to Oregon Inlet from Drum Inlet will be the problem. That's a helluva ride.

This thread comes up every few months with some usually good arguments. I can summarize it for you:

1. 1000 feet of fluro leader, NO LESS for Tuna
2. I've been Tuna fishing for 50 years!!!! I've leader more Yelowfin on coffee Malin wire then you will ever catch.
3. You need a boat full of $30 Illanders to even think about catching a Tuna!!!!!
4. If you have your Planer in the water forget ever catching a Tuna.
5. You need an entire spread of spreader bars.

and probably the best advice:

6. If you find the fish it won't much matter. They will hit mono, fluoro, Malin Wire, Piano Wire, Stainless wire, Blue/White, Purple Black, Pink Crystal, Blue Crystal, Green, etc.
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys I have tried replying to everyone's pm's from this thread but it won't let me. I promise very soon I will post a video of how I rig my squid. I'm not the best at explaining but it is super easy and you can have a perfectly rigged bait in 10 seconds or less.

As for mono length, about 6 feet is all I use. Heck, last year at mad we couldn't keep lines in the water for the blackfin and they were all caught on #9 Malin wire. I have ran flouro in the spread with mono trying to test the bite ratio difference and I have seen ZERO difference in my results as to whether they prefer flouro over mono. Maybe it's because I have never ran into picky or leader shy tuna yet? But I have caught hundreds of yellowfin and blackfin so I'll continue opting out of flouro
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^There's several videos on youtube about it IIRC.  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locally for Mahi we use a mix of lures and bait. Just putting meat in the boat we use chuggers on the edges. I like the BXC white head blue and white skirt with a Ballyhoo. Other side gets a pink or something bright like that, rigged without bait.
Inside those a mix of skirts with ballyhoo and dolphin weenies. We tie our own. We also through a teaser chain inthere somewhere and run something way-way back, which we'll usually mix up through the day between bait and lures.

Caught Mahi all year last year and even a yellow fin out about 30 miles.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fish out of straits, hit me up before you go and if were going we can buddy boat, helps to always have a friend out there. Im looking to also head up that way in search of tuna sometime this year. Im still learning this trolling thing, good read same basic way we run our spread im also on a 26' boat. Never been through drum, but have friends that do it all the time on a 24ft.  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep your spread bunched up for Tuna. Kinda mimics a tight school of bait. The bite will happen all at once and then taper off. If youíre lucky, you can stay on them and get the bite a few times throughout the day. Pilot whales are a good sign.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great info from all....Maybe i need to rethink the Straits through Drum to OI. I mapped it today and thats a 120nm run to the point....Holy Cow! Maybe need to trailer a little closer and spend a night or two somewhere near a launch. Any thoughts I would appreciate.
"jdunk" i'll PM you my contact. looking the week following Easter April 1 - 6. I'm trailering from OKI.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CW66 wrote:
Great info from all....Maybe i need to rethink the Straits through Drum to OI. I mapped it today and thats a 120nm run to the point....Holy Cow! Maybe need to trailer a little closer and spend a night or two somewhere near a launch. Any thoughts I would appreciate.
"jdunk" i'll PM you my contact. looking the week following Easter April 1 - 6. I'm trailering from OKI.


That would be a good idea. Or fish up and stay the night and then fish back. Or stay and fish a few days but the weather rarely allows that.
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Seapro180" how do you rig whole squid for trolling?
What lb mono do you recommend for Tuna?



I think somewhere here on the site Tim Barefoot has a video of how he preps his whole squid. They are deadly with his Chin Weights!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may not be the same video mentioned but I found this...

https://vimeo.com/192774691
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noworries79 wrote:
This may not be the same video mentioned but I found this...

https://vimeo.com/192774691


This isn't the video lookintohookem was talking about. This is one I threw together real quick a while back. In all reality, it takes about 10 seconds to rig not 30 as mentioned in the video. When I get around to getting a video put together with some real squid, I will show this method as well as another very similar method. Both are super easy and quick.

I was never able to find any videos in my searches of the chin weighted squid rig. Maybe someone else will know where to find it. I wouldn't mind seeing it myself
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess what I found?! It shows the rigging and skinning.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCrpfcQmaOc wtg
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^^there it is! I would be afraid of pulling it off rigged this way though.i know they are tough but at 6-8kts, I'm not sold they won't pull off. I would definitely rig them this way if I were trolling 4kts or less though.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iíve pulled them on king rigs in similar fashion with some success. Learned something new. Thanks for sharing fellas.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked at video and wondered if any one ever rigged a squid on a pirate plug? Sure the average PP is not rigged heavy enough for yellow fin but maybe for black fin?  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac284 wrote:
Just looked at video and wondered if any one ever rigged a squid on a pirate plug? Sure the average PP is not rigged heavy enough for yellow fin but maybe for black fin?


Just curious....why are you set on using a Pirate Plug?
  
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Not really set on pirate plugs other than I have several. I just thought the rig used in the video was similar to the rig used with a pirate plug and thought it might work. Asked out of curiosity more than anything.  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you pull the pin, the long piece of skeletal membrane, out of a trolled squid, or leave it in?  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glacierbaze wrote:
Do you pull the pin, the long piece of skeletal membrane, out of a trolled squid, or leave it in?


Leave it in
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great info gang....going back to using squid chains/teasers.
If you run 2 chains or teasers what are your 2 favorite colors ?
How Large of a spread if teaser/spreader bar?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use green or pink but in my opinion, I don't think color matters. It's the commotion and presentation of your spreader bars and chains that brings them up.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you brine the squid like ballyhoo or just thaw and rig?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tireman wrote:
do you brine the squid like ballyhoo or just thaw and rig?


I know some that do and some that don't. I don't. They are already tough baits. No need to make them taste bad. I have used them brined and I can't see as it makes them any tougher than they already are because I can't see a difference.
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