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Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:42 pm
This is so WRONG!!! We get 2 weekends and the commercials get 5 months????

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FB18-050 FISHERY BULLETIN ISSUE DATE: July 23, 2018CONTACT: Frank Helies, Sustainable Fisheries (727) 824-5305, frank.helies@noaa.gov NOAA Fisheries Announces Limited Opening of Recreational and Commercial Red Snapper Seasons in South Atlantic Federal Waters KEY MESSAGE:NOAA Fisheries announces a final rule for Amendment 43 to the Fishery Management Plan for the Snapper-Grouper Fishery of the South Atlantic Region (Amendment 43). This rule specifies recreational and commercial annual catch limits for red snapper beginning in 2018.

Red snapper recreational and commercial seasons will open in South Atlantic federal waters for limited harvest beginning in 2018.
The South Atlantic Fishery Management Council approved Amendment 43 after recent scientific information indicated an increase in the red snapper population since 2010.
NOAA Fisheries determined limited harvest beginning in 2018 is neither expected to result in overfishing, nor prevent continued rebuilding of the population.

WHEN RULE WILL TAKE EFFECT:

The rule will take effect on July 26, 2018.
The recreational sector will open for harvest on weekends only (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) on the following days:
August 10, 11, and 12, 2018 - The recreational season opens at 12:01 a.m., local time, on August 10, 2018, and closes at 12:01 a.m., local time, on August 13, 2018.
August 17, 18, and 19, 2018 - The recreational season opens again at 12:01 a.m., local time, on August 17, 2018, and closes at 12:01 a.m., local time, on August 20, 2018.
The commercial sector will open for harvest upon publication of the final rule at 12:01 a.m., local time, on July 26, 2018, and will close at 11:59 p.m., local time, on December 31, 2018, unless the commercial annual catch limit is met or projected to be met before this date.
NOAA Fisheries will announce if the commercial sector needs to close before December 31, 2018.
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:15 pm
In Wilmington the winds will be from the NE at 18 knots gusting to 25 knots. Average wave height 5 feet at 6 seconds. Winds and sea conditions are due to start on August 9 and will keep going until August 20. Then next year NOAA will state that the catch was well below the ACL. There fore the stocks are in trouble so the 2019 season will be shorter. Can you say "catch 22"? wall
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Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:20 am
Barry I hope that you are kidding but, with our luck, you might just a (un) fortune teller. Like last year.  
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Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:44 am
Yes I am kidding. But if it does come to pass NOAA will use that to justify their logic on the season.
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Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:12 am
Noaa fisheries management is a bloody joke, unless you are a commercial fisherman.
Recreational anglers get 6 select days in August, which starts after the commercial fishermen have been killing them for several week prior to. And non-stop until the end of the year. Apparantly NOAA management are all commercial fishermen.
  
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Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:46 am
rawfish wrote:
Noaa fisheries management is a bloody joke, unless you are a commercial fisherman.
Recreational anglers get 6 select days in August, which starts after the commercial fishermen have been killing them for several week prior to. And non-stop until the end of the year. Apparantly NOAA management are all commercial fishermen.


Thatís what I was thinking.
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Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:18 pm
The recreational quota is considerably higher than the commercial quota. Don't let the numbers of fish for recs verses pounds for comms confuse you. Unreliable recreational landings data is a big part of why that season is so short. So many recreational anglers is another reason. Officially reporting recreational landings would help. Submitting public comments about when you want openings to occur could solve that problem. Using a descending device to release Red Snapper suffering barotrauma could help us keep more of the approximately 400,000 pounds of Red Snapper still being allocated to projected dead discards.  
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Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:29 pm
I'm disappointed because I was hoping I was going to luck into being able to fish for them on that charter I've got with Capt Dave the last weekend in Aug. :(  
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:14 am
I'll be out there Saturday morning for some ARS!
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Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:42 am
Throw the Rec. Fisherman a bone for the weekend. Laws and rules like this makes outlaws.
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Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:08 pm
surffishn wrote:
Throw the Rec. Fisherman a bone for the weekend. Laws and rules like this makes outlaws.


Recreational fishermen getting nearly twice the quota as commercial fishermen doesn't seem quite right.
  
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:12 pm
Quota allowance really doesn't matter much if you only have 5 minutes to fish for them.  
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surffishn
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Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:53 am
Quota is a joke to I really doubt with 6 days 1 fish quota will be even close to Max. But that will be less next year cause low numbers caught. Hahahaha
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Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:00 pm
Sobachka wrote:
Quota allowance really doesn't matter much if you only have 5 minutes to fish for them.


^^^^^True dat!!^^^^^ What a sham. And I do mean SHAM!
  
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Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:42 pm
Last few trips out we have caught multiple ARS each time.

One trip we had 15 if my memory is correct including a few in the mid to upper teens.

The kicker is I fish shallow water where SAFMC says ARS does not exist.
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Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:22 pm
NOAA Fisheries Announces Limited Openings of Recreational and Commercial Red Snapper Seasons in South Atlantic Federal Waters

WHAT/WHEN:
The recreational sector will open for harvest on the following days:
July 12, 13, and 14, 2019 (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) - The recreational season opens at 12:01 a.m., local time, on July 12, 2019, and closes at 12:01 a.m., local time, on July 15, 2019.
July 19 and 20, 2019 (Friday and Saturday) - The recreational season opens again at 12:01 a.m., local time, on July 19, 2019, and closes at 12:01 a.m., local time, on July 21, 2019.
The commercial sector will open for harvest at 12:01 a.m., local time, on July 8, 2019, and will close at 12:01 a.m., local time, on January 1, 2020, unless the commercial annual catch limit is met or projected to be met before this date.
If the commercial sector needs to close before 12:01 a.m., local time, on January 1, 2020, NOAA Fisheries will announce it in the Federal Register and publish another Fishery Bulletin
  
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:56 pm
ChrisMcCaffity wrote:
The recreational quota is considerably higher than the commercial quota. Don't let the numbers of fish for recs verses pounds for comms confuse you. Unreliable recreational landings data is a big part of why that season is so short. So many recreational anglers is another reason. Officially reporting recreational landings would help. Submitting public comments about when you want openings to occur could solve that problem. Using a descending device to release Red Snapper suffering barotrauma could help us keep more of the approximately 400,000 pounds of Red Snapper still being allocated to projected dead discards.


Agreed on all counts.
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surffishn
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Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:18 pm
With a commercial trip limit at 75 pounds. The commercial fisherman is not getting anything special. I have a total different opinion from last year. They certainly can not do just a ARS trip. Only going to help with fuel. Both rec.and comm. got a bad deal. But it is what it is they are already talking change next year. Somehow recreational fish need to be accounted for. But the one thing I found strange the commercial quota was extended last year. Due to not meeting quota by end of year. On a side note commercial and recreational need to unite not fight. There are many out there that would be happy to stop all fishing, hunting, trapping. I feel somehow there is a common ground.
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