I love to hunt with hounds & still hunt , have done it all of my life what I hate is when some guy leases up 20 acres of land and thinks he can control the whole area. I will tell you this Sadie harm a hound and let them prove it , It will cost your ass a bunch of $$ ,,,,, But there are rouge hunters all over we have them just as much as you . I told a guy the other day come back on a certain piece of land for what ever reason I will indite his ass .
As for the stolen tree stands and a man with 1 dog I would look for him . He sounds like he was searching for what he could find
Back-lash, whether you lease 20 acres or 900 acres, whether you own a 1/4 acre home site, or a 1000 acre farm, you should be able to keep people and dogs off your land if you want to. NO one is trying to control the whole area. We just want the right to not have our property used and abused by others.
No one is advocating harming the trespassing dogs, just requiring their owners to keep them on their own land. If the dog hunters don't wake up soon and start policing themselves, they will eventually lose the right to dog hunt all together. People aren't going to put up with their crap much longer.
Brad
I hate a thief myself, I will keep an ear out around the Southport Area.
And since this thread got de-railed and became the dog vs. still hunter post.
I just happen to know a few RENAGADE still hunters that just make-way into a few places they are not suppose to be also. And they would probably steal the pennies off a dead mans eyes if they got the chance.
Hunting deer with dogs is fun, especially if you have ever hunted with any that were worth a damn. But hey to each his own.
If you don't like dog hunting, sit in a tree over "corn piles and electronic feeders" or hunt in the state where they don't allow it, but don't try and change the areas that still allow it.
There ain't no shortage of Deer so an 15B won't be necessary to regulate them, their are plenty for both groups. 
Well Said Ricky!!!!!!!!
Back-lash, whether you lease 20 acres or 900 acres, whether you own a 1/4 acre home site, or a 1000 acre farm, you should be able to keep people and dogs off your land if you want to. NO one is trying to control the whole area. We just want the right to not have our property used and abused by others.
No one is advocating harming the trespassing dogs, just requiring their owners to keep them on their own land. If the dog hunters don't wake up soon and start policing themselves, they will eventually lose the right to dog hunt all together. People aren't going to put up with their crap much longer.
Problem is a dog is to damn dumb to read posted and tresspassing signs, they also don't know what a boundry is or how to tell if they are on your land, my land or their owner's. Your words are spoken like someone who doesn't or hasn't ever owned a dog outside their on back yard or a leash. And you are dumber than those dogs if you think any owner can tell a free ranging pack dog where they can and can't go. Dog hunters have been around the country side a lot longer than city slickers leasing that famers 20 acre patch. Oh by the way I'm not a dog hunter any longer, haven't been in over 30 years and do enjoy a nice tree stand when I can. But I have enough common sense to repect the local dog hunters right to be there as much as his right to be in a stand on a food plot next to me.
Rick, you are spot on. I have had tree stands stolen and torn down and both are a real pisser. In the real South, you can nail tree stands to a tree like a tree house but you can't bait them with corn and feeders, only rye grass and or clover plots.
..My old hunt club was a doggin club.. I was a "still hunter" come deer season.. When I got bored sittin in my perch I could always go chase dogs.. Didn't hafta clean'em when I caught'em either. Great fun both ways.. We had 4500 acres all one piece right beside the PeeDee River.. Can't say as I cared much for the way Walkers would get'em high-tailin.. But a good pack of short legged Beagles'd just keep'em shuffled around. It was very fun to watch the deer "work" the dogs as well..
..There were certain times when the doggers could be annoying, but for the most part they just did their thing.. Get .25 mile off a 2 track and they're mostly a non-issue.. Across Hough Rd. was "off limits" to doggin. That ran right across the top of our club and sliced off about a .5 mile strip about 2.5 miles long along some prime creek bottom. That's where we hunted if we didn't want dogs around. And most of the nicer deer were taken from there.. But I sure as heck can't say we had any more fun..
..Listenin & watchin a pack of dogs work was very enjoyable. A good many of those fellas didn't even carry a firearm with them. And I can't honestly say that anything they ever did had a major effect on my hunt. Let'em be unless they're "looking for dogs" and totin a longarm. Just because you don't care for an activity is no reason to outlaw it. Right netters.? 
d:^) Schneeky..
the world is going to hell in a handbag or new york city
GUYS THIS DONT SOUND LIKE A STOLEN GOODS ISSUE ANYMORE IT SOUNDS LIKE A PISSING CONTEST BETWEEN STILL HUNTERS VERSUS DOG HUNTERS. MYSELF I DO BOTH AND ALL IM GONNA SAY IS STOP FIGHTING AMONGST YOURSELVES OR YOU WILL HAVE NO DEER HUNTING. THAT WILL BE THE WAY I TOLD A SEASONED LADY FROM WELL NORTH OF HERE IF YOU DONT LIKE DEER HUNTING THEM TELL YOUR CONGRESSMAN TO OUTLAW IT THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR PRETTY BUSHES AND THAT 80 GRAND BMW YOUR DRIVING. WE AS DEER HUNTERS NEED TO STICK TOGETHER, REGARDLESS OF WHOS RIGHT OR WRONG. NOT SAYING IM SIDING WITH TRESPASSERS BUT THEY SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CONCIDERATE I AGREE.
Guys, there is something you can do about dog hunters on your property. I used to bow hunt Orton Plantation game lands. One afternoon, while driving through my property, I came upon a group of dog hunters. I knew what they were doing, and they knew they were trespassing. I confronted them in civilized manner, wrote down a vehicle description & license plate number, and asked for their names. Much to my surprise, they actually gave me their real names. Who the heck names their kid "Bubba" anyway?
Long story short, I told them that I would press charges if I caught them on my property again. A few weeks later the Orton Plantation grounds manager caught them on my land. I called the local game warden, gave him the information, and he said he would take care of it. Well he never did (damn good ol boy network.) Apparently the game warden was friends with the trespassers. I had to call the game warden's boss, Sgt. Bill Lester, and explained my situation again. Finally the dog hunters were ticketed. They had to pay fines, court cost, and if they are caught on my property again they go to jail.
Guys, there is something you can do about dog hunters on your property. I used to bow hunt Orton Plantation game lands. One afternoon, while driving through my property, I came upon a group of dog hunters. I knew what they were doing, and they knew they were trespassing. I confronted them in civilized manner, wrote down a vehicle description & license plate number, and asked for their names. Much to my surprise, they actually gave me their real names. Who the heck names their kid "Bubba" anyway?
Long story short, I told them that I would press charges if I caught them on my property again. A few weeks later the Orton Plantation grounds manager caught them on my land. I called the local game warden, gave him the information, and he said he would take care of it. Well he never did (damn good ol boy network.) Apparently the game warden was friends with the trespassers. I had to call the game warden's boss, Sgt. Bill Lester, and explained my situation again. Finally the dog hunters were ticketed. They had to pay fines, court cost, and if they are caught on my property again they go to jail.
Dear Sir,
I was one of the people that gave you my name (Ricky Holden) when you were driving through YOUR property, we were on your precious land catching the dogs that were turned out on land we have permission to hunt behind Jabbertown Road 2 hours eariler. We did not cross any of YOUR gates as it is open on the back side. Generally when people give their names they usually have no ILL INTENT. Nobody cared to shoot the (5) Does and Yearlings they were running - If we had wanted to we would have killed them when they crossed the Sunny Point Road. Unfortunately we did not catch all the dogs when they crossed and they went to YOUR bowhunt paradise.
"Bubba" was not his given name - it is a nickname - His parents who are very well respected people that have lived in Southport all their lives and are GREAT people named him Kenneth (We named him Bubba) and I really dont appericiate your comments about him or his parents.
I will be sure to let the game warden know you feel like its a good ol boy network he is running and if you need to talk to me personally feel free to contact me or stop by 8094 River Road SE Southport any weekend I am home It's right on the way to your property.
By the way - great 2nd post.
For the record I don't know either of you above and I am certainly not taking sides. I have dog hunted in the past and now only still hunt. But the scenario REH describes above is why their are so many problems between dog and still hunters. You should not feel it is ok to trespass on anothers land to retrieve your dogs. If you need to go on another's land for your dogs you should have permission. This may be an inconvenience for you but it just comes with your style of hunting, just as it's an inconvenience for any still hunter to have dogs run by his stand while he is hunting on his own property. My house is 200 yards in the woods up a small private drive and I have had dog hunters park their truck in my yard within 30 yards of my house and call their dogs. I would have had no problem at all if they would have knocked on my door for permission. If everyone would respect others rights their would not be as many problems and we could all get along.
I do agree with you that Intheeye should not make fun of someone's name but that is not the heart of the problem. This part was uncalled for and has nothing to do with the root of the problem and that is trespassing on private property.
Guys, there is something you can do about dog hunters on your property. I used to bow hunt Orton Plantation game lands. One afternoon, while driving through my property, I came upon a group of dog hunters. I knew what they were doing, and they knew they were trespassing. I confronted them in civilized manner, wrote down a vehicle description & license plate number, and asked for their names. Much to my surprise, they actually gave me their real names. Who the heck names their kid "Bubba" anyway?
Long story short, I told them that I would press charges if I caught them on my property again. A few weeks later the Orton Plantation grounds manager caught them on my land. I called the local game warden, gave him the information, and he said he would take care of it. Well he never did (damn good ol boy network.) Apparently the game warden was friends with the trespassers. I had to call the game warden's boss, Sgt. Bill Lester, and explained my situation again. Finally the dog hunters were ticketed. They had to pay fines, court cost, and if they are caught on my property again they go to jail.
Dear Sir,
I was one of the people that gave you my name (Ricky Holden) when you were driving through YOUR property, we were on your precious land catching the dogs that were turned out on land we have permission to hunt behind Jabbertown Road 2 hours eariler. We did not cross any of YOUR gates as it is open on the back side. Generally when people give their names they usually have no ILL INTENT. Nobody cared to shoot the (5) Does and Yearlings they were running - If we had wanted to we would have killed them when they crossed the Sunny Point Road. Unfortunately we did not catch all the dogs when they crossed and they went to YOUR bowhunt paradise.
"Bubba" was not his given name - it is a nickname - His parents who are very well respected people that have lived in Southport all their lives and are GREAT people named him Kenneth (We named him Bubba) and I really dont appericiate your comments about him or his parents.
I will be sure to let the game warden know you feel like its a good ol boy network he is running and if you need to talk to me personally feel free to contact me or stop by 8094 River Road SE Southport any weekend I am home It's right on the way to your property.
By the way - great 2nd post.
Why would I care what you appreciate? Your happiness is not my responsibility. The fact still remains that you did cross a gate to get on to my property. It's the one on the power line that separates the county land from Sprunt's land. It was locked with a cable at one point in time. Unfortunately some renegade removed it. Even without the cable, the two posts clearly define the border between county and private land.
As much as I dislike dog hunters, I was willing to let the matter go. It wasn't until Randy caught the same group on the same piece of land that I decided to take action. I'm not sure if you were there the second time, but your well respected friend was very rude and hostile towards Randy. Honestly, what would you have done? How would you handle it if I showed up in your backyard with a bag of corn and a climbing stand? Not once, but twice. I asked Keith the same question in court. I think he got my point.
I'm not trying to start a pissing match. I just want y'all to understand that you were in the wrong. And if making fun of a silly nickname ruffles your feathers, then you need to grow some thicker skin. There are more serious things to get upset about.....like trespassing.
I see that you are a boat captain. If you would like to compensate me for my lost wages due to spending the day in court, I would gladly accept a free fishing charter.
Guys, there is something you can do about dog hunters on your property. I used to bow hunt Orton Plantation game lands. One afternoon, while driving through my property, I came upon a group of dog hunters. I knew what they were doing, and they knew they were trespassing. I confronted them in civilized manner, wrote down a vehicle description & license plate number, and asked for their names. Much to my surprise, they actually gave me their real names. Who the heck names their kid "Bubba" anyway?
Long story short, I told them that I would press charges if I caught them on my property again. A few weeks later the Orton Plantation grounds manager caught them on my land. I called the local game warden, gave him the information, and he said he would take care of it. Well he never did (damn good ol boy network.) Apparently the game warden was friends with the trespassers. I had to call the game warden's boss, Sgt. Bill Lester, and explained my situation again. Finally the dog hunters were ticketed. They had to pay fines, court cost, and if they are caught on my property again they go to jail.
Dear Sir,
I was one of the people that gave you my name (Ricky Holden) when you were driving through YOUR property, we were on your precious land catching the dogs that were turned out on land we have permission to hunt behind Jabbertown Road 2 hours eariler. We did not cross any of YOUR gates as it is open on the back side. Generally when people give their names they usually have no ILL INTENT. Nobody cared to shoot the (5) Does and Yearlings they were running - If we had wanted to we would have killed them when they crossed the Sunny Point Road. Unfortunately we did not catch all the dogs when they crossed and they went to YOUR bowhunt paradise.
"Bubba" was not his given name - it is a nickname - His parents who are very well respected people that have lived in Southport all their lives and are GREAT people named him Kenneth (We named him Bubba) and I really dont appericiate your comments about him or his parents.
I will be sure to let the game warden know you feel like its a good ol boy network he is running and if you need to talk to me personally feel free to contact me or stop by 8094 River Road SE Southport any weekend I am home It's right on the way to your property.
By the way - great 2nd post.
Why would I care what you appreciate? Your happiness is not my responsibility. The fact still remains that you did cross a gate to get on to my property. It's the one on the power line that separates the county land from Sprunt's land. It was locked with a cable at one point in time. Unfortunately some renegade removed it. Even without the cable, the two posts clearly define the border between county and private land.
As much as I dislike dog hunters, I was willing to let the matter go. It wasn't until Randy caught the same group on the same piece of land that I decided to take action. I'm not sure if you were there the second time, but your well respected friend was very rude and hostile towards Randy. Honestly, what would you have done? How would you handle it if I showed up in your backyard with a bag of corn and a climbing stand? Not once, but twice. I asked Keith the same question in court. I think he got my point.
I'm not trying to start a pissing match. I just want y'all to understand that you were in the wrong. And if making fun of a silly nickname ruffles your feathers, then you need to grow some thicker skin. There are more serious things to get upset about.....like trespassing.
I see that you are a boat captain. If you would like to compensate me for my lost wages due to spending the day in court, I would gladly accept a free fishing charter.
Sir
(1) Did not tear down your gate
(2) trying to keep the dogs of 133 and not get killed
(3) your comment was about his parents naming him.
(4) As far as a fishing trip - Try hanging your climbing stand off one of the Tower Legs and fish all you want. I'll gladly give you the ride out.
A dog can't read a "No Trespassing" sign.
And if they're from Brunswick County, neither can the owner.
