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seapro180
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Sat May 26, 2018 1:20 am
Here it is. The easiest way to rig a squid for trolling hands down. I apologize to everyone who has been waiting so long for this. I hope it helps and is easy to follow. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. The only stupid questions are those unasked!

https://youtu.be/zWlWWjSlVK8
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Sat May 26, 2018 1:49 am
Great video. I bet those rigs slide right through scattered weed. Thanks for the lesson.  
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Sat May 26, 2018 2:05 am
I'm going to have to try that! Great video.
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Sat May 26, 2018 2:14 am
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Great video. I bet those rigs slide right through scattered weed. Thanks for the lesson.


its unbelievable how well they do. If and very seldom grass does get caught, its not caught by a hook. its caugth by a bird, skirt, etc. a quick twitch of the rod pops it right off.
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Sat May 26, 2018 1:08 pm
Great video, thanks for sharing. It's obvious from your posts that this rig works! Couple questions: Do you always run a sea witch or do you run naked? Bird or daisy chain in front or not? And what are your go to sinker sizes?
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Sat May 26, 2018 10:33 pm
chumbucket wrote:
Great video, thanks for sharing. It's obvious from your posts that this rig works! Couple questions: Do you always run a sea witch or do you run naked? Bird or daisy chain in front or not? And what are your go to sinker sizes?


Chum,

I do not always run witches. I put illanders, witches, king dusters, feathers, chugger heads and everything in-between in front of them. I have and do run them naked, I have ran them with a single bird out front, bird chain out front, squid chain out front, etc. As far as weight size, 3/8 oz is what I run 90% of the time. You may think I'm crazy, but I more times than not have a number ONE planer...yes, you heard me right...a NUMBER ONE planer in the spread that usually gets the most hits and all of my bigger fish come off of it. My reasoning for such a small planer is that although mahi are top feeders for the most part, alot of your bigger bulls will run below the smaller fish. A #1 planer will get you deep enough to get below the children but not to deep to get below mom and pop. And with a squid and 3/8 oz weight, it won't trip even a planer that small. When the tuna are here, I keep several rigs with 2 oz weights. That way if I run over fish that I just can't seem to bring up, I can use the exact same rig with just a heavier weight to drop it down to them. 9 times out of 10, you will get hooked up. They may be to full or not in the mood to swim up and Chase a bait but if you drop it down right in front of them, they just can't resist!
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Sat May 26, 2018 11:13 pm
Thanks for the video! I do have some questions though. When doing it this way, you need to make a new knot or new crimp to attach it to the main line every time you rerig. Which do you do? And do you just cut it off every time you need to put on a new squid? Also, when running a traditional rubber skirt, do you put anything between the nose of the squid and the skirt? Very excited to try this!  
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Sun May 27, 2018 1:02 am
Great INFO!

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Sun May 27, 2018 1:28 am
rcrejzer wrote:
Thanks for the video! I do have some questions though. When doing it this way, you need to make a new knot or new crimp to attach it to the main line every time you rerig. Which do you do? And do you just cut it off every time you need to put on a new squid? Also, when running a traditional rubber skirt, do you put anything between the nose of the squid and the skirt? Very excited to try this!



Yes. You do need to make a new loop each time. Just cut it off rig and then tie. Crimping every time isn't an option for me. To much time for that. I have boated Marlin, wahoo, sails, tuna, mahi, sharks, etc and have never had one slip...with ANY FISH. A far as putting anything between the skirt and squid...nope. just slide it on and go.
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Sun May 27, 2018 12:52 pm
Thanks for the video. When this topic got started you had helped someone who was fishing in scattered grass. It would seem you would get less grass hookups fishing a naked squid than with a skirt. Do you adjust your spread with nakeds when in the weeds? Also ever use a circle hook?
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Sun May 27, 2018 2:33 pm
Great video. Thanks.  
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Sun May 27, 2018 6:15 pm
fishntime wrote:
Thanks for the video. When this topic got started you had helped someone who was fishing in scattered grass. It would seem you would get less grass hookups fishing a naked squid than with a skirt. Do you adjust your spread with nakeds when in the weeds? Also ever use a circle hook?


I have never had a problem with grass even when pulling them skirted so I don't worry about switching up to naked ones when I'm in it. You do make a good point but it's never been a problem. I have ran circle hooks but normally I don't. I have a buddy in Florida I showed how to rig squid and he runs circle hooks on them for billfish. He rigs them the same way except with a circle and not a J hook
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Sun May 27, 2018 9:37 pm
Do you use a bridle with such a small planer?
Same trolling speed as ballyhoo.
Great info
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Sun May 27, 2018 11:11 pm
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Do you use a bridle with such a small planer?
Same trolling speed as ballyhoo.
Great info


I have ran them with a bridle. I use big snap swivels for my clips on those small planers. I don't bridle them all the time though. Sometimes I just do it the old fashioned way and hand line them the rest of the way from the planer.

Yes. Same trolling speed as hoos. You can even troll them faster if you want.
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Mon May 28, 2018 6:41 pm
That is a great way to rig them, very simple. Thanks for sharing this. Definitely going to try the small planers.  
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Mon May 28, 2018 6:47 pm
Seapro, not often a fella will let a cat out of the bag like this, until he's on his death bed. You feelin' alright? Just messin' of course. I have fished squid rigs over the years, depending on time of year and location. I have not seen the video yet, but I will say that I clean the insides out before rigging. Maybe after seeing the video my remark is redundant, sorry if it is.  
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Mon May 28, 2018 7:17 pm
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Seapro, not often a fella will let a cat out of the bag like this, until he's on his death bed. You feelin' alright? Just messin' of course. I have fished squid rigs over the years, depending on time of year and location. I have not seen the video yet, but I will say that I clean the insides out before rigging. Maybe after seeing the video my remark is redundant, sorry if it is.


I definitely ain't on my death bed yet... at least to my knowledge I'm not. I'm not one to give out fishing numbers or other info like that, but when I started out, I had nobody to show me. Sure, I fished saltwater all my life growing up. But only from the beach. My dad had bass boats etc. So when I decided to step it up a notch and get a boat I was 100% ALONE. Everything I know came from trial and error. I never once had someone to go with to show me the ropes or even point me in the right direction. I worked very hard, pissed away a bunch of money and time trying things, doing things wrong, and spending an astronomical amount of time and man hours documenting each trip, going over data and figuring out what to do different. I studied each fish species, and their feeding habits, how they live, behavioral habits etc. I made it a point after figuring it all out that I would do whatever I could to make life easier for others.

I don't bother cleaning the insides out. It doesn't get in the way of rigging, it doesn't make the bait swim weird, and that's just less time and effort to prepping. Might as well give the fish the whole burito for it's last meal instead of just the tortilla wtg
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Mon May 28, 2018 7:44 pm
Thank you for taking the time to make the video and post it for us. Very simple.
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Mon May 28, 2018 7:49 pm
Truly much appreciate the information Seapro. I too try to figure this saltwater stuff out by trial and error(far more errors) with mostly only the help of those of you guys on this site willing to share. I think I've done pretty well, only having been on the water down here for a little over 3 years but I'm certain I've burned a lot( a lot, a lot, a lot) of extra $$ and hours that I may have needed to, but for me, that's most of the fun and challenging part bringing a fish over the rail.

You can be sure I'll be pulling seapro180 squid rigs behind me the next time the weather cooperates.
  
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Mon May 28, 2018 10:23 pm
Thank you for doing the video. I will definitely try it next time I get out. When we fished this past Friday the scattered grass made it difficult to fish where we marked a lot of the fish. This rig would allow me to fish on those fish. My only question is if you run it on a planer how long a leader do you run from the planer to the rig?  
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Mon May 28, 2018 11:44 pm
smokindrag wrote:
Thank you for doing the video. I will definitely try it next time I get out. When we fished this past Friday the scattered grass made it difficult to fish where we marked a lot of the fish. This rig would allow me to fish on those fish. My only question is if you run it on a planer how long a leader do you run from the planer to the rig?


My leaders are around 50'.
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Mon May 28, 2018 11:47 pm
Thanks for sharing this Seapro. Can hardly wait to try it. Now if we can just get Chumbucket to share his grouper catching secrets!
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Tue May 29, 2018 12:03 am
I have absolutely nothing to add to this except THANK YOU!
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Tue May 29, 2018 12:12 am
Thanks for the video. In the opening, you said 100lb mono, then later you said 50lb. Do you use both, or are all rigs the same line?
What kind of lure is the eel hanging on that rod at the end of the video?
  
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Tue May 29, 2018 12:21 am
Wes wrote:
Thanks for sharing this Seapro. Can hardly wait to try it. Now if we can just get Chumbucket to share his grouper catching secrets!


Ya know, I can get ahold of some tracking collars pretty easily from work. I can also get some SPOT and Data logger tags used to track sharks. With a little help, we might can tape one in a very discreet location on his boat for a while... chin
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Tue May 29, 2018 12:49 am
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Thanks for the video. In the opening, you said 100lb mono, then later you said 50lb. Do you use both, or are all rigs the same line?
What kind of lure is the eel hanging on that rod at the end of the video?


I apologise for that. I didn't even notice that. I do NOT run 50# mono. I DO use 100# mono for leaders. I think I said 50# the second time because there was a spool of 50# line I use to make bottom rigs sitting there and I must have seen it while making the video and that was what was on my mind after seeing it sitting there. When the tuna are here in force, I will drop my leaders down to 60# just to help with them not seeing it as much.

As for the eel, it is a Savage real eel. That my friend is a Cobia slaying machine, especially when you run a 4 rod spread trolling them about 2-3kts. I run 2 on the bottom, one at mid depth and one near the top. It's almost impossible not to catch one on these this way. If you run over one or within range of him to see one...he WILL eat it. Excellent for sight casting as well. They are super soft making them feel real so they hold on longer when they strike it. And they look spot on. They are 3D printed from a real eel supposedly.
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Tue May 29, 2018 1:22 am
Thanks for taking the time to do this.
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Tue May 29, 2018 2:16 am
Great video. Thanks for sharing.

Iím also glad to hear I wasnít the only one to experience the expensive learning curve in the beginning years.
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Tue May 29, 2018 9:42 am
Hey Seapro I have a few questions.
Do you have any problems with them running true. Looks like they would want to spin.
What speed to you running them at?
How many squid are in a typical 5# box. I have bought many a box but they all ended up getting chopped before they could thaw out of there box.
Thanks again for the help. I predict a run on squid soon.
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Tue May 29, 2018 10:06 am
Thanks for a great video. Lordie, that is so much simpler than what I tried in the past.

I will definitely try it.
  
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