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seapro180
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Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 pm
Wes wrote:
Hey Seapro I have a few questions.
Do you have any problems with them running true. Looks like they would want to spin.
What speed to you running them at?
How many squid are in a typical 5# box. I have bought many a box but they all ended up getting chopped before they could thaw out of there box.
Thanks again for the help. I predict a run on squid soon.


Wes,

I have never noticed or seen them spinning. Nor have I ever stuck a camera under the water to view them running. Although I have always wanted to. From what I see from the boat, they have however always ran straight and not been spinning. So if they do, it's not continuous. In reality, a little rotation every now and then would actually be a good thing. Studies have shown that when squid are fleeing from predators and chasing food, that they use a method called rotational agility. (Meaning they spin) it's not constant, but more of a sporadic thing. So if by chance, you see your squid make a rotation or two every so often... LEAVE IT ALONE. It's only acting more natural for you. The aerodynamics of a squid alone will not allow it to spin constantly like a ballyhoo if not rigged properly.

As far as numbers, I have never really counted. I can say we have 2 man limits of mahi, several tuna and a pile of bottom fish off a single 5# box and still threw some away. If I had to guess I would say there has to be at least 40-50 in there.
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Tue May 29, 2018 12:09 pm
Great post Seapro. I'll definitely be trying out this method.  
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Tue May 29, 2018 1:08 pm
I rigged some up for us Friday and they looked good in the water an slid right thru the grass, my only complaint was no mahi, we did manage a few blackin.
My question do rig any the night before or do you do it all when get where u are fishing.
By the way Great Video
  
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Tue May 29, 2018 1:18 pm
Many thanks Seapro. Got something new to add to the arsenal now!!!
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Tue May 29, 2018 1:22 pm
Wow, thanks for taking the time to make this video! Can't wait to try it!!!  
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Tue May 29, 2018 3:41 pm
kenner1 wrote:
I rigged some up for us Friday and they looked good in the water an slid right thru the grass, my only complaint was no mahi, we did manage a few blackin.
My question do rig any the night before or do you do it all when get where u are fishing.
By the way Great Video


I can almost guarantee that if you didn't catch a mahi, it was because you didn't run over them or near them! Good deal on the blackfin though. Those rigs really do slide through the grass pretty well. It's so nice not to have to deal with clearing lines all freaking day.

Sometimes I rig them the night before and sometimes I don't. If I see something on the sst charts that I think is going to be a box filler, then I will rig them the night before or have someone rig a bunch on the way out. That way I can clip a new one on and go. If I am going somewhere that just looks average, I will just wait and rig them when I get to where I am going and just rig them as I go and need them.
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Tue May 29, 2018 5:50 pm
oh yeah we just throwed a dart at the map with no good info to go on and missed the fish I have no doubt they will catch fish.  
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Wed May 30, 2018 1:54 am
Awesome video and thanks for sharing.

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Wed May 30, 2018 2:30 pm
Nice video.

You using the 8", 12" or 16" savage eels?
  
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Wed May 30, 2018 2:31 pm
triplewhammy wrote:
Nice video.

You using the 8", 12" or 16" savage eels?


12"
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Wed May 30, 2018 3:47 pm
Love the video and yes no more crappie corks. Good video brother nice to see somebody passing it on. Everything eats a squid.  
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Thu May 31, 2018 10:21 pm
Sea pro,

Where do you get your squid from?

Got ours from chasin tails. Color was good but they were on the small side
  
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Thu May 31, 2018 10:38 pm
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Sea pro,

Where do you get your squid from?

Got ours from chasin tails. Color was good but they were on the small side


90% of the time, they come from Walmart in MHC. There color isn't the best and they don't look pristine in the box but they have always held up and never had any problems or issues with them. Sometimes if we get left from home in time to make it to Neuse sport shop in Kinston, we will get it there. Most of the time they are closed though and we want to leave out before chasing tails opens. So Walmart is our only option. Like I said though, never had any problems pulling them from there. The nice big white one in the video is from neuse sport shop. We made it there before they closed. Actually...8 minutes before they closed lol
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:20 am
seapro, you are the man !!!! I'm trying this the next time out
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Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:58 pm
Thanks SeaPro. Is there any special kind of knot you tie for your loop on the end, or just a simple double overhand knot?  
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Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:32 pm
Finnzup wrote:
Thanks SeaPro. Is there any special kind of knot you tie for your loop on the end, or just a simple double overhand knot?


Just a standard double overhand knot
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:51 pm
Seapro, we picked up a #5 box and tried pulling squid in our spread of ballyhoo on Tuesday. The squid "blew out" within minutes/seconds of putting in the water. Meaning the egg sinker pulled through the mantle and it balled up on the hook. We even tried a 2 ounce sinker to try and stop this with no luck. Have you had this issue? The only difference I saw was that our squid were very big. In the #5 box from a local tackle shop I counted 11 squid? The only thing I could figure is the large size/weight of the squid were creating too much drag. Do you look for a certain size when buying or have any ideas?
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:33 pm
Am sure Seapro will have knowledge on this but what did you use to put the hole in the mantle to run the line through?  
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:44 pm
mr quint you might have got the large squid like they use for sword fish rigs. the 5 ib. box will have a lot of squid in them about 8 inches long, we pulled some like sea pro said and they held up pretty good even in rough conditions.
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:29 pm
Mrquint wrote:
Seapro, we picked up a #5 box and tried pulling squid in our spread of ballyhoo on Tuesday. The squid "blew out" within minutes/seconds of putting in the water. Meaning the egg sinker pulled through the mantle and it balled up on the hook. We even tried a 2 ounce sinker to try and stop this with no luck. Have you had this issue? The only difference I saw was that our squid were very big. In the #5 box from a local tackle shop I counted 11 squid? The only thing I could figure is the large size/weight of the squid were creating too much drag. Do you look for a certain size when buying or have any ideas?


Yeahhhhhhhh...you definitely got the wrong squid. You were fishing with swordfish bait. I have never tried pulling those. I have got several different brands in 5# boxes and never had any blow out. You should be able to pull them forever. The big tell give away is that you only got 11 squid in the box. You should have gotten somewhere between 30 and 50 squid in the box. There is no certain size as they all are between 8 inches and 13 inches. Check them before you buy them next time. If there is AOLT in there, you know you got the right box.

Post an update when you try again with the right squid. I'm sure you will be impressed with how well they run and pull (and catch fish). Just don't make that mistake again! wtg
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:24 pm
That is exactly what I was thinking. When we pulled them out of the box and only 11 total we knew something was wrong, they were HUGE! You said a box lasted you all day, that didn't add up. They did look awesome pulling in the water, tentacles had a ton of movement. I'll give them a shot next trip and keep you posted.
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Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:42 pm
Hey Seapro

Do you use the same setup later in the summer when the fish scatter and you're trolling inside the break? Looks like it's going to be July before I get a chance to go and if you can pull these at 7-8 knots that might be the ticket to cover some ground and chase down some of those spread out mahi. Definitely going to try it.
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:08 am
bigjohnnc wrote:
Hey Seapro

Do you use the same setup later in the summer when the fish scatter and you're trolling inside the break? Looks like it's going to be July before I get a chance to go and if you can pull these at 7-8 knots that might be the ticket to cover some ground and chase down some of those spread out mahi. Definitely going to try it.


You better believe it. No matter what time of year it is, if it swims in the ocean, and I'm trolling, I'm pulling squid. I have caught some STUD Spanish on them too. Squid is available in our waters all year long, they are plentiful, and alot less work for fish to chew on than having to expend alot of energy tracking down baitfish.

Let me ask you this... Have you ever been trolling for Spanish and only getting hits on a certain color or more so, a certain size spoon? Have you ever fished for anything in fresh or salt water that was only hitting a certain lure? This is where matching the hatch comes from. It's very prominent in trout fishing as well. When you want to catch trout and the mayflies are hatching, do you use a fly that resembles a nymph or do use a fly that resembles a mayfly?

Squid is the exception! Since they do not come and go like baitfish, they are "the hatch" year round so no matter what the fish are feeding on at that particular time, if a squid comes swimming by them, they ain't going to turn it down. I recommend you and any others that really want to see just how productive they are to troll a half and half scattered spread with squid and ballyhoo or squid and cigars for the king fisherman. You will be surprised at which baits get ate first. Let us know how you do!
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:24 am
Definitely makes sense! Thanks for the reply. Now if weather and schedule will cooperate.
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:41 am
Thanks for the video. Good stuff!  
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:01 pm
Picked up a box of squid from Wal-Mart in morehed and headed out to the big rock on Friday. Rigged them just like seapro showed, using 2 oz sinkers. Had a couple rigged with witches, and a couple naked. Also there out a green machine just to see. Final count: 12 mahi in the box, one on the green machine, 11 on naked squid. Never had a sinker pull through, or a squid blow out. The ballyhoo I took as backup never came out of the cooler. Ran through scattered grass all morning and hardly ever had to clear a line. I will always be pulling squid from here on out. Big ups to seapro, can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge!

By the way, we pulled lines in at 12:30 and went bottom fishing with the leftover squid :-)
  
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:04 pm
tanc wrote:
Picked up a box of squid from Wal-Mart in morehed and headed out to the big rock on Friday. Rigged them just like seapro showed, using 2 oz sinkers. Had a couple rigged with witches, and a couple naked. Also there out a green machine just to see. Final count: 12 mahi in the box, one on the green machine, 11 on naked squid. Never had a sinker pull through, or a squid blow out. The ballyhoo I took as backup never came out of the cooler. Ran through scattered grass all morning and hardly ever had to clear a line. I will always be pulling squid from here on out. Big ups to seapro, can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge!

By the way, we pulled lines in at 12:30 and went bottom fishing with the leftover squid :-)


I have had several share their first time pulling squid success stories with me since posting the video. It makes me so happy to know my hard work and EXTENSIVE research, testing, and data collection over the years has helped so many people already.

BTW...it is nice to only have to have one bait that does it all and last all day ain't it? No need to buy baits for trolling, baits for bottom bouncing, etc. And it can all be done for around $13 for enough for all day!

How were the quality of the ones at Walmart this time? Did you have to look through several boxes to find good ones or were they all pretty decent? I had to look through about 10 boxes last time I picked some up there. I have used some pretty sketchy ones from there before because that's all they had and they still held up just as good as ones that looked good, but i still like to look through all the boxes anyway to get the best looking ones they have
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:04 am
It was great!

I just grabbed a box, didn't think to check em out first. They were on the small side but I'm guessing that helped with the hookup ratio? They stated off pink but turned white after pretty quick once they got in the water. Held up great though.

I'm going to use longer leaders next time, cause I lost a few inches every time I had to re-bait.

I made a couple of your teasers too, but the weed was too scattered and they kept getting fouled. Will try em again another time.
  
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:59 pm
Seapro, when you use the planer, do you use the kingbuster chain, or just the squid? Thanks.  
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Finnzup wrote:
Seapro, when you use the planer, do you use the kingbuster chain, or just the squid? Thanks.


Just the squid either with or without a skirt. I have tried using it but it it trips that small planer. It will hold on a #3 planer or larger though
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