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Posts: 134
Location: holden beach
Location: holden beach
Fri May 29, 2015 10:40 am
Not that I intend to carry one but was curious what the regs are for keeping a gun on your boat. Bit of an friendly argument at the office.
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Location: Salisbury NC
Location: Salisbury NC
Fri May 29, 2015 11:50 am
Inside 3 miles state law applies. After 3 miles Federal law applies. I was stop two years ago in the icw and was told that by the officer that boarded us. Also remember if you have a concealed carry permit state law applies. There was three of us on my boat, we all were having a cold one after a day of fishing and he reminded us state law applies on concealed weapons. So if it's concealed be careful while drinking!
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Fri May 29, 2015 12:09 pm
None of the typical rules apply when you carry openly. Just can't consume alcohol.
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Location: Durham NC
Location: Durham NC
Fri May 29, 2015 9:57 pm
Being from Durham I carry a gun anywhere and everywhere I go! HAHA!! Seriously though I have always carried on the boat and had CG and MP see it numerous times during on water checks and tell me it was fine. I have a concealed to carry and I don't drink so that was not an issue.
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Location: Sneads Ferry NC
Location: Sneads Ferry NC
Fri May 29, 2015 10:31 pm
I read that is it illegal to have a gun at public boat ramps unless you have a concealed carry
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Location: Raleigh / MHC
Location: Raleigh / MHC
Sat May 30, 2015 3:20 pm
Suppose one or more people aboard are consuming alcohol, and there is a gun stowed below decks or in the cabin/cuddy cabin?
I know a good many folks who never go offshore without a gun aboard and routinely have a cold snack or two while fishing.
What are the rules that apply in waters around national seashores or state game lands?
I was once cited many years ago for possessing a .22 rifle in a boat during closed hunting seasons while on waterways that were within state game lands. I got it dropped in court, but seemed like a BS charge to me.
I know a good many folks who never go offshore without a gun aboard and routinely have a cold snack or two while fishing.
What are the rules that apply in waters around national seashores or state game lands?
I was once cited many years ago for possessing a .22 rifle in a boat during closed hunting seasons while on waterways that were within state game lands. I got it dropped in court, but seemed like a BS charge to me.
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Location: Belville NC
Location: Belville NC
Sat May 30, 2015 5:58 pm
I used to carry a .410 shotgun in the cabin of my boat, plainly displayed and unloaded. It was vacuum sealed in the same plastic roll material I seal my fish in. The rounds were kept separate and under lock and key. I always declared it and never had an issue, but it was a different world back then. It was also common practice for me to have a shotgun or rifle in the window rack of my pickup at school on Friday during hunting season. I don't recommend anyone try that these days either.
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Location: Ocean Isle Beach
Location: Ocean Isle Beach
Sat May 30, 2015 7:57 pm
I have a 12 ga on the boat at all times. Ammo comes home with me and is loaded when the boat is going out the inlet. I have a CC permit and always carry. I have been boarded by NC and SC officials along with USCG and have never had an issue. Always declare before they board ~ surely they would not like that kind of a surprise and NC requires it for the CC.
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Location: nobody knows
Location: nobody knows
Sun May 31, 2015 5:14 pm
I would hope that anyone boarding my boat, being provided with declaration and me not having CC, would understand that you cannot leave a weapon exposed to the salt air by leaving it stuck in a rod holder.
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Location: Rockingham cnty
Location: Rockingham cnty
Sun May 31, 2015 6:41 pm
No problem with guns, but if I'm forced to choose between guns and alcohol, I'll take alcohol everytime.
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Location: Morehead City, NC
Location: Morehead City, NC
Sun May 31, 2015 7:25 pm
I have enough trouble with people on boats who don't know how to fish, I don't need to complicate that with people who don't know or need to be around guns.
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Sun May 31, 2015 9:06 pm
Always have the mossy 500 and a .45 on board. Never an issue. They're always cool and don't give me a hard time...
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Location: Charlotte, NC
Location: Charlotte, NC
Sun May 31, 2015 9:25 pm
Open carry means that the weapon can be seen from 3 sides. You CAN drink and OPEN carry by NC law. Problem is if your drunk you can be charged with something like in-sighting public fear (or something worded like that). You can NOT drink at all and carry concealed. You can spin this question a lot of ways. Like said already, declare it if being boarded. If everyone on board has been drinking make the weapon OPEN if you may be boarded. If it is in something like a ziplock and placed in sight I would think you'll be fine. I know everything else to be true as a friend just went through this and I was told by the police officer investigating the case and no charges were filed no my friend.
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Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:21 pm
I have a CC license. I don't cary on my boat, or rarely day to day for that matter. For those of you that do carry on board would you mind sharing your reasoning behind this.......other than the obvious "right" to do so. Just curious, thanks in advance.
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Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:07 pm
Every time.... all the time
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Port: Atlantic Beach, NC
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Location: Durham NC
Location: Durham NC
Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:09 pm
I can only speak for myself but as a conceal to carry gun owner I would carry on the boat for the same reason I would carry anywhere. Number one reason being because it is my American right! Second is because there are crazy people on land and water that could threaten me, my crew, and my families lives. As so many people have talked about on this thread, drinking on the water is an extremely popular thing. There are lots of folks that have no business drinking because it makes them crazy, stupid, dangerous, etc... This situation is probably more prevalent on the water then in the confines of your car or home. I am not some gun loving nut that hopes to use his gun. It is strictly protection and I pray it is never used against someone. It is like a insurance policy that you never want to use but damn glad it is there if you need it.
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Location: Sunset Beach
Location: Sunset Beach
Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:37 pm
Well said Sailfish 236. Safe rather than sorry.
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Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:53 am
NCGS 14-269.4 governs possession of firearms on State Owned Property.
A person with a CCH permit can carry a concealed handgun on the grounds or waters of a park within the State Parks System as defined in NCGS 113-44.9. (CCH holder and handgun only)
Weapons may be carried at State Owned rest areas, rest stops along highways, and State Owned hunting and fishing reservations. (use of the term "weapon" brings rifles and shotguns into the fold here and makes no mention of the need for CCH for handguns)
Are boat ramps part of the State Park System or considered part of State Owned hunting and fishing reservations????
Sound a little vague? Sure many gun laws are. That's why asking 10 different enforcement officers the same question will result in no less than 3 different answers and why charges in NClandBroker scenario were dismissed.
A person with a CCH permit can carry a concealed handgun on the grounds or waters of a park within the State Parks System as defined in NCGS 113-44.9. (CCH holder and handgun only)
Weapons may be carried at State Owned rest areas, rest stops along highways, and State Owned hunting and fishing reservations. (use of the term "weapon" brings rifles and shotguns into the fold here and makes no mention of the need for CCH for handguns)
Are boat ramps part of the State Park System or considered part of State Owned hunting and fishing reservations????
Sound a little vague? Sure many gun laws are. That's why asking 10 different enforcement officers the same question will result in no less than 3 different answers and why charges in NClandBroker scenario were dismissed.
Posts: 38
Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:10 pm
Pretty sure they would be considered that H20. I would say 90% of duck hunters that hunt the sounds, rivers, lakes, etc have to use a State ramp to get their boat in the water. With that said, they will have a firearm with them at a State ramp. Hell, the Game Wardens camp out at popular State ramps at popular duck hunting locations to check everybody coming and going.... this includes checking guns and ammo.
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Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:35 pm
If you are going to talk about state ramps look into the ramps that are controlled by the army corp of engineers
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Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:11 pm
Bring them along simply because they're fun to shoot. Plus, if those Somali pirates come around, they'll have to deal with return fire.
Sometimes they never come out to be fired, it's a mood thing. Slow bite? Let's skeet shoot.
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Sometimes they never come out to be fired, it's a mood thing. Slow bite? Let's skeet shoot.
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Posts: 205
Location: Durham NC
Location: Durham NC
Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:25 pm
Who needs a gaff when your rocking hollow points! No longer need to club tunas or worry about a wahoo chomping on your leg. Plus they are being bleed out much more efficiently when they have no head. To be honest I have never fired a pistol while in the ocean but I would still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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Location: Ocean Isle Beach
Location: Ocean Isle Beach
Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:01 am
| sailfish236 wrote: |
| Who needs a gaff when your rocking hollow points! No longer need to club tunas or worry about a wahoo chomping on your leg. Plus they are being bleed out much more efficiently when they have no head. To be honest I have never fired a pistol while in the ocean but I would still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. |
Never fired one on the water either even though a few sharks and a cobia have really pissed me off.
Posts: 229
Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:49 am
I really want to skeet shoot off the back of the boat. I have always wanted to do this but haven't because I don't know the laws. Are there any other laws other than the gun laws that would come into play here? With my luck there would be some crazy ass law and I would be charged with a federal or felony offense.
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Location: Southport
Location: Southport
Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:34 pm
A friend of mine asked me at a Christmas party in the DC area what "protection" I take offshore with me. Assumed that he wasn't talking about condoms. He was shocked when I told him that I carried nothing out there other than knives, gaffs and other primitive weapons. He spent a career in federal law enforcement and said that there is far more bad stuff that goes on out there than is ever reported. He may be right. I don't know. I do know that if I ever feel like it's necessary for me to carry a firearm along for protection while fishing I'll probably just hang up the rods and start watching "combat fishing" on the reality channels. And I may just start drinking again, too.
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:45 pm
Duck hunters go to boat ramps with guns ,just don't do stupid things !!! When your checked
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Location: Why, where the fish are..SILLY
Location: Why, where the fish are..SILLY
Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:20 pm
I see references to CC permits and long guns in the same posts. This may lead to some misconceptions. The CC permit is ONLY FOR PISTOLS. it does not cover any other weapons. Not a long gun, not a knife over the limit. not a BB gun.
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Location: Goldsboro NC
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:11 pm
Boating access areas - no "loaded" firearms unless permit for Concealed carry
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Licensing/Regulations/FireArmsandConcealedCarry.aspx
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Licensing/Regulations/FireArmsandConcealedCarry.aspx
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Location: Carteret County
Location: Carteret County
Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:11 am
If one were to really think about it and willing to spend a few bucks for an adapter, a normal 12 ga flare gun can be pretty handy to have around for personal protection. The adapter can be used to fire up to 45 cal shells and adapter is not even needed to fire the light load 12 ga shotgun shells. The law even requires you to have these guns but am not sure what the law is if you were to walk into the local Walmart packing a flare gun on your hip. Regardless of how you feel about it, I sure as heck would not like to take a close up hit from a flare gun even if loaded with normal 12 ga flare.
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Location: middle of the ocean somewhere
Location: middle of the ocean somewhere
Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:33 pm
I keep several guns on board at all times. I don't drink while on the water so that's not an issue for me. Been stopped by Coasties and fisheries alike. Most fisheries guys know me and they know I'm usually carrying.
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