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coastwx
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:59 am
I realize specific locations are probably a long shot, but wanted to see if anyone actually goes out in the winter and harvests a few oysters for personal consumption. I grabbed a few clusters around Lockwood Folly yesterday to test out. I want to get to the point where I can go out a few times during the winter and get a peck for a weekend. Figured the area around Lockwood may not be the best because its so accessible, but I have not explored that much. It will be low tide in the middle of the day, so may explore more over the next few.


Also any tips on harvesting like tools and getting to the oysters. Thanks for any comments/suggestions. Thought that maybe behind Bald Head would be the best area, but have not been there yet.
  
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12ga
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:30 pm
NOT AN AUTHORITY BY ANY MEANS BUT ALL THE WATERS AROUND OI , BALD HEAD , LOCKWOOD IS/WAS CLOSED TO ALL OYSTER HARVESTING >>> BETTER CHECK IT OUT <<<<   
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marker39
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:21 pm
Shellfish Closure Map link below

http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/mf/shellfish-closure-maps
  
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12ga
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:01 pm
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT ; THAT AREA IS MOSTLY CLOSED !!!! wall wall wall   
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Wes
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:42 pm
marker39 wrote:
Shellfish Closure Map link below

http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/mf/shellfish-closure-maps


Looks to me like there's lot's of open areas at Bald Head and Lockwood. Am I looking at something wrong?
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12ga
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:29 pm
WES; SCROLL DOWN ON THE LINK AND READ THE BRUNSWICK CO SEGMENT,, I SEE MOST OF CAPE FEAR BASIN , S-PORT , LOCKWOOD , BUZZARDS BAY , AND BALDHEAD AS CLOSED ,,,, I MAY BE READING IT WRONG BUT THATS WHAT I SEE !!!! ANY ONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN ??? I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE GET IN HOT WATER OVER MY INTERPATATION.....   
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coastwx
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:15 am
Wes wrote:
marker39 wrote:
Shellfish Closure Map link below

http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/mf/shellfish-closure-maps


Looks to me like there's lot's of open areas at Bald Head and Lockwood. Am I looking at something wrong?


Thanks a lot guys. That's the only reason I got a few around Lockwood. From the maps on their portal, the mouth of the Lockwood Folly River and Cape Fear/Baldhead areas ARE open. I'll try to dig more.
  
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coastwx
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:27 am
This is what I pulled up. If their written proclamation is different from their portal, that's is really poor website outreach. But, the only one I saw was for the White Oak river and Queens creek. The image below is normal for Oak Island.

I guess not many here harvest winter oysters.

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dusky
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:32 am
They don't change the permanent closure maps when they issue a proclamation. Go to the NCDENR NCDMF website to see the proclamations for each month for temporary closures. You can have the proclamations sent to your email when they are issued so you will always have up to date information.   
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Wes
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:45 am
running northerly to a point 33 54.8140 N - 78 20.1695 W in the Intracoastal Waterway, thence running easterly to a point 33 54.8238 N - 78 20.0485 W in the Intracoastal Waterway, thence running southerly to a point 33 54.7994 N - 78 20.0459 W along the shoreline, thence running easterly following the shoreline to a point 33 54.8582 N - 78 19.3755 W, thence running easterly across the mouth of the creek to a point 33 54.8591 N - 78 19.3296 W, thence running easterly following the shoreline to a point 33 54.8877 N - 78 19.0486 W, thence running easterly across the mouth of the creek to a point 33 54.8852 N - 78 19.0250 W, thence running easterly along the shoreline to a point 33 54.9236 N - 78 18.4958 W at the permanent closure line near IWW Beacon 59, to include the canals near Swordfish Drive on Holden Beach.

I want to go oystering too. Can anyone recommend a guide who is also a surveyor?
Guess I'll just stick to buying my bushels from the Robinson's
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12ga
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:42 pm
I SEE YOU GOT THE POINT OF MY POST ; LOTS OF OYSTERS TO BE HAD IF YOU CAN FIND ANY THAT ARE LEGALLY HARVESTABLE!!!!   
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coastwx
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Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:09 pm
dusky wrote:
They don't change the permanent closure maps when they issue a proclamation. Go to the NCDENR NCDMF website to see the proclamations for each month for temporary closures. You can have the proclamations sent to your email when they are issued so you will always have up to date information.


Thanks for this information. That clears things up on the maps.

The Jan 2019 proclamation says all temporary closures on Dec return to status quo except in the White Oak and Queens Creek.

http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/mf/proclamation-pa-02-2019
  
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kicker30
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:54 am
Never been very in tune with these closures, are they to protect the shellfish and give them spawning/growing time or protect the people and give them time to filter out impurities from times of excessive dirty/polluted water or both depending on the circumstances surrounding the specific closure?   
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coastwx
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:47 pm
I'd think closures are almost all health related. The big marsh around the old Oak Island bridge is loaded with oysters, but closed permanently. They have to be 3" or longer. I wonder how picky they are with that because clusters always have small ones growing off the larger ones. I guess you have to just be as careful as you can.   
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jasonafox
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:09 pm
coastwx wrote:
I'd think closures are almost all health related. The big marsh around the old Oak Island bridge is loaded with oysters, but closed permanently. They have to be 3" or longer. I wonder how picky they are with that because clusters always have small ones growing off the larger ones. I guess you have to just be as careful as you can.



You are allowed a percentage of dead shell per bushel. I do not know the exact amount, but the DMF officer has a bushel bucket, and then a pan that he uses to measure the dead shells. If he wants to be a Richard, he can scrape every shell and all those little barnacles and empty shells off your oysters, and all that counts against your dead shell limit. i would guess the "dead" bucket is about 1/10 of a bushel, but thats just a guess.

If it sounds like a dark art, it is. I received a citation in excess of 350$ for harvesting in a closed area. The area had no signage and was about 50 yards from being legally open. This is when I learned about proclamations and closures on the NCDMF website. The NCDMF came out and put signs up in the area the very next week.
  
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12ga
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:34 pm
WHAT QUANITY DENOTES HARVESTING FOR CONSUMPTION OR JUST PICKING UP A FEW FOR BAIT..??? FINES SEEMS A LITTLE HARSH FOR A HANDFULL OF O's FOR BAIT!!!! wall wall   
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coastwx
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:59 pm
Thanks for that information J. Really helpful.

Had some other things pop up, but finally got to the ones harvested late last week this evening for dinner. Probably about 3/4 of a peck. Cooked under the broiler. As far as size they were about like the cheaper clusters you get. Some average size singles and a couple a bit larger than average. Nothing huge. They were tasty. Not super salty like some I've had, but better than some clusters we got back in Nov from the local seafood shop.

Definitely something I plan to do when weather and tides cooperate. Going to scout out more areas around L-F next time and then behind Bald Head before things warm up. Probably make it a habit of taking the old shells to any new area I get em.
  
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