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lwr37
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I haven't been trolling much in the last couple years. With the weather and work it just hasn't been good for me. We had a good trip recently and it has me burning for more! I haven't changed the topshot on my trolling reels in s few years. I've always ran smoke blue but I'm finding it harder and harder to see the where the lines are running. I'm going to continue using blue on the planer rod and flat lines as they are easy to see. Outriggers are going to high vis fluorescent yellow. WWB is going something other than VY. I am running 6' #9 piano wire. I am not opposed to splicing on 20' of blue either.

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Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:52 pm
I'm currently doing exactly the same thing, and have a spool of that same Hi-VIS line ready for respooling this spring. Have always run clear in the past.
Thinking of running 30' of clear or fluro at the end.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:42 pm
Larry I am getting ready to re-spool my reels as well. I will be using Blue on the flat line and clear leader on the planer rod. Hi Vis Yellow will be used on the four outrigger reels and Shotgun.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:10 pm
I used a blue for a while. Went to a white color for the past 1 or 2 and noticed some decrease in activity somewhat. So this year will be back to blue. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. But I like my blue.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Curious to see the responses here. I run his vis yellow for long rigger and orange for short rigger. Have a 15' section of clear attaching the hi vis to the swivel bc I don't want that hi vis in the water. Might be overkill, dunno. Only problem is the windon swivel gets snagged on the guides very now and then.

Have seen others use clear line and have large oval glow beads of different colors before the swivel. Harder to see, but you can pick out the glow bead with some practice
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:47 pm
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Curious to see the responses here. I run his vis yellow for long rigger and orange for short rigger. Have a 15' section of clear attaching the hi vis to the swivel bc I don't want that hi vis in the water. Might be overkill, dunno. Only problem is the windon swivel gets snagged on the guides very now and then.

Have seen others use clear line and have large oval glow beads of different colors before the swivel. Harder to see, but you can pick out the glow bead with some practice


I know a guy that can splice that clear on with braid and do away with the swivel. Damn good guy too. So I hear...
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:12 pm
We have caught a bunch of fish on Hi Vis yellow. I even send it down on the downrigger and still catch fish.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:03 pm
Hmmm. Larry could you be talking about yourself? chin
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Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:01 pm
I run clear on my WB, Hi Vis on the short and long riggers to my clear 10' long leaders, whatever on my flat line because no problem seeing it and 130lb braid on the planer rod to the bridle then 100' of clear 150lb leader from the bridle to my 6' wire leader at the lure.
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Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:26 am
I installed the high vis yellow on my 4 rigger lines. Then I spliced on 25' of blue. This combo worked as we went 4 for 6 on wahoo Saturday. Video to follow when completed. Really like the high vis. Especially on the long riggers. Going to get some red/orange for the WWB, going to add 25' blue to it as well.
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Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:10 pm
Looks great.
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Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:30 pm
I use the Berkley Pro spec Chrome in Florescent Orange Larry. I found that we have trouble seeing the hi vis yellow in bright sunlight and further from the boat. The orange really pops and you can see where it enters the water even on the longest lines.
That being said, we tie a top shot of clear into the end of about twenty feet or so. Not that its made a difference in my mind if the fish can see it or not, or if it makes a difference if its tied straight to the wire or the clear helps. I've don't both.
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I use the Berkley Pro spec Chrome in Florescent Orange Larry. I found that we have trouble seeing the hi vis yellow in bright sunlight and further from the boat. The orange really pops and you can see where it enters the water even on the longest lines.
That being said, we tie a top shot of clear into the end of about twenty feet or so. Not that its made a difference in my mind if the fish can see it or not, or if it makes a difference if its tied straight to the wire or the clear helps. I've don't both.
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Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:32 pm
that s a smooth lookin splice right there and it must hold good too.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:55 am
tireman wrote:
that s a smooth lookin splice right there and it must hold good too.


It got this bad boy in! 65.5lb
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:50 pm
Hey Larry thanks for the hook-up. I order my supplies yesterday.
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Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:00 pm
lwr37 wrote:
I installed the high vis yellow on my 4 rigger lines. Then I spliced on 25' of blue. This combo worked as we went 4 for 6 on wahoo Saturday. Video to follow when completed. Really like the high vis. Especially on the long riggers. Going to get some red/orange for the WWB, going to add 25' blue to it as well.




Larry, that looks outstanding! Can I ask what knots you are using for the braid to Hi-Vis connection, and the blue mono to the Hi-Vis?

FG knot?


Thanks,
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Fishfull-Thinking wrote:
lwr37 wrote:
I installed the high vis yellow on my 4 rigger lines. Then I spliced on 25' of blue. This combo worked as we went 4 for 6 on wahoo Saturday. Video to follow when completed. Really like the high vis. Especially on the long riggers. Going to get some red/orange for the WWB, going to add 25' blue to it as well.




Larry, that looks outstanding! Can I ask what knots you are using for the braid to Hi-Vis connection, and the blue mono to the Hi-Vis?

FG knot?


Thanks,
John


The Hi-Vis to Blue is spliced with about 4' of 200lb hollowcore braid, then served on both ends. My braid to Hi-Vis is currently an FG knot because I did not have my splicing tools at the time. First chance I get I will pull all of the mono of and splice the braid to Hi-Vis connection too. I am a believer in splicing whether its braid to braid, braid to mono or mono to mono. The connection cannot be beat. I does take some specialized tools but not difficult at all.
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:24 am
Thanks Larry, much appreciated. I'll check YouTube for anything on splicing the lines.

If you have anything on the tools and are willing to share that as well, that will be outstanding.

Thanks again,
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:16 am
For anyone who is interested, here are a few YouTube videos I found for doing the splice and serve. Just passing this on as "info", I have not tried any of these....... just sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl1TKIPstk8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI-wPwmgmzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cslKaI8JIp0
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Fishfull-Thinking wrote:
Thanks Larry, much appreciated. I'll check YouTube for anything on splicing the lines.

If you have anything on the tools and are willing to share that as well, that will be outstanding.

Thanks again,
John


Everything you need is located here.

http://www.bhptackle.com/home.php?cat=1

You'll need the following.

BHP Needle Kit
Beiter Winder Profi
Medium Spectra Serving
Ideal Spectra® Scissors
BHP Portable Wind-On Jig

The above tools should be all you need. The jig is a very important part of getting quality splices time after time. My first splicing kit was a Power Pro Splicing Kit. It came with a great video but very basic splicing supplies. Below is a link to part of the video. I believe it was like 45 minutes long but it covered a ton of material. Splicing is not difficult with the right tools and gives a great connection.

PP Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl1TKIPstk8
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:47 am
Some good info here too.

http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=6
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Thanks Larry, much appreciated...…. I owe you one!!!
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We have been running Hi vis but once I reviewed my troll camera last year it looks like a glow stick under the water. I don't think it has ever effected the fish but I wonder what your thoughts are.

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That's interesting. Cool too.
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aaronw_06 wrote:
We have been running Hi vis but once I reviewed my troll camera last year it looks like a glow stick under the water. I don't think it has ever effected the fish but I wonder what your thoughts are.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj3FKtcD4Sj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


That's why I am splicing on 25' of brilliant blue Momoi Diamond mono. HV above water blue below.

I'll also say the video shows the importance of giving the line a little pull every now and then. It will cause a fish to strike because it thinks the bait is trying to escape.
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lwr37 wrote:
aaronw_06 wrote:
We have been running Hi vis but once I reviewed my troll camera last year it looks like a glow stick under the water. I don't think it has ever effected the fish but I wonder what your thoughts are.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj3FKtcD4Sj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


That's why I am splicing on 25' of brilliant blue Momoi Diamond mono. HV above water blue below.

I'll also say the video shows the importance of giving the line a little pull every now and then. It will cause a fish to strike because it thinks the bait is trying to escape.


I like the idea of pulling the line, good point. I really have learned a lot from the troll pro camera, what you see from the boat looks a lot different at fish level.
  
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lwr37 wrote:
aaronw_06 wrote:
We have been running Hi vis but once I reviewed my troll camera last year it looks like a glow stick under the water. I don't think it has ever effected the fish but I wonder what your thoughts are.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj3FKtcD4Sj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


That's why I am splicing on 25' of brilliant blue Momoi Diamond mono. HV above water blue below.

I'll also say the video shows the importance of giving the line a little pull every now and then. It will cause a fish to strike because it thinks the bait is trying to escape.


I like the idea of pulling the line, good point. I really have learned a lot from the troll pro camera, what you see from the boat looks a lot different at fish level.


I already have a serious issue buying fishing stuff. I guess I need one of these too.
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lwr37 wrote:
aaronw_06 wrote:
lwr37 wrote:
aaronw_06 wrote:
We have been running Hi vis but once I reviewed my troll camera last year it looks like a glow stick under the water. I don't think it has ever effected the fish but I wonder what your thoughts are.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj3FKtcD4Sj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


That's why I am splicing on 25' of brilliant blue Momoi Diamond mono. HV above water blue below.

I'll also say the video shows the importance of giving the line a little pull every now and then. It will cause a fish to strike because it thinks the bait is trying to escape.


I like the idea of pulling the line, good point. I really have learned a lot from the troll pro camera, what you see from the boat looks a lot different at fish level.


I already have a serious issue buying fishing stuff. I guess I need one of these too.


Note to highjack a thread but I made mine for very cheap, most expensive part was the tear drop anode. It pulls perfectly straight.
  
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lwr37 wrote:
aaronw_06 wrote:
lwr37 wrote:
aaronw_06 wrote:
We have been running Hi vis but once I reviewed my troll camera last year it looks like a glow stick under the water. I don't think it has ever effected the fish but I wonder what your thoughts are.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj3FKtcD4Sj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


That's why I am splicing on 25' of brilliant blue Momoi Diamond mono. HV above water blue below.

I'll also say the video shows the importance of giving the line a little pull every now and then. It will cause a fish to strike because it thinks the bait is trying to escape.


I like the idea of pulling the line, good point. I really have learned a lot from the troll pro camera, what you see from the boat looks a lot different at fish level.


I already have a serious issue buying fishing stuff. I guess I need one of these too.


Note to highjack a thread but I made mine for very cheap, most expensive part was the tear drop anode. It pulls perfectly straight.


No use me reinvcenting the wheel. Post up some sketches and pictures. The thread is for whatever comes.
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