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Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:27 am
I had heard that there was one scheduled for this coming Saturday at Atlantic beach bridge. Does anyone have details on this event?
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19th - 11:00 AB hi rise
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:04 pm
Thanks for the info. Missed the last one, hope to make this one.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:09 pm
Just make sure they don't establish 10 mph as the pace for the parade like they did in Texas...
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https://www.eventbrite.com/e/north-carolina-patriot-boat-parade-tickets-120122318087
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Look out for Antifa submarines!  
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Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:00 am
No doubt. This has been rescheduled for this coming Saturday at 11:30 beginning at the Atlantic beach bridge for those who are interested.
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Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:36 am
I guess it's just me - I don't see the point of political rallies.

What's the goal?

Is the desire to show your support for Trump or to annoy the people that detest him (or is it both?)

(I'd ask the same question if it was a Biden flotilla but those are obviously not a thing!).

To me, going out and voting has always been the best way to show support for a candidate and tends to make us all tolerate our neighbors a bit more.
  
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:39 am
Bilzo wrote:
I guess it's just me - I don't see the point of political rallies.

What's the goal?

Is the desire to show your support for Trump or to annoy the people that detest him (or is it both?)

(I'd ask the same question if it was a Biden flotilla but those are obviously not a thing!).

To me, going out and voting has always been the best way to show support for a candidate and tends to make us all tolerate our neighbors a bit more.



Because it's fun?
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:08 am
I mean - if that's how you have fun - so be it. I don't understand it (but I don't understand golf being fun either and a lot of people enjoy that).  
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:23 am
Wait did somebody think I was being serious about Antifa submarines? LOLOLOLOLOL

Trump Rallies are like Cult Meetings, buncha people whose identities are tied up with him.
  
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Bilzo
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:49 am
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Wait did somebody think I was being serious about Antifa submarines? LOLOLOLOLOL


I don't think so. Don't take yourself too seriously either.
  
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:10 pm
Well the way I see it is if you don't like that sort of thing, don't go. That is the great thing (for now) about this country of ours, you have the right to participate, or to not participate. You have the right to your opinion (for now) and just because yours differs from someone else's doesn't give them the right to bash you or be sarcastic about it. Ain't living in the US just SUPER!!! (for now). God Bless America, and if you don't believe in God, please forgive me for upsetting certain ones of you...again. Seems there once was a day where most everyone "had a pair" and didn't feel the need to tune up when they heard or saw something that didn't sit just right with them.
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:04 pm
Not necessarily from anyone in this thread but I’ve heard “libtard” and even more offensive terms from one side so forgive me for being sarcastic. It’s pretty minor compared to what Trump and a lot of his supporters do on a regular basis.

If y’all wanna support someone who makes fun of the disabled (Fayetteville, 2016) and has no respect for women (grab them by the xxxxx) or those who serve in the military (Bellau Wood: “It’s filled with losers.”), well, that’s on you.
  
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Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:55 am
The left can't get enough people together to have one for Biden.
Although I no longer have a boat it is get to see the support for our president.
  
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Bilzo
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:15 am
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Well the way I see it is if you don't like that sort of thing, don't go. That is the great thing (for now) about this country of ours, you have the right to participate, or to not participate. You have the right to your opinion (for now) and just because yours differs from someone else's doesn't give them the right to bash you or be sarcastic about it. Ain't living in the US just SUPER!!! (for now). God Bless America, and if you don't believe in God, please forgive me for upsetting certain ones of you...again. Seems there once was a day where most everyone "had a pair" and didn't feel the need to tune up when they heard or saw something that didn't sit just right with them.


I 100% agree. In no way was I saying y'all shouldn't go or whatever. If that's your cup of team, dig in and enjoy. (just be nice to others).

I just wonder these questions out loud sometimes because I'm from the Chapel Hill area, and there are tons of Biden/Harris signs (which is fine) and then when you head to the coast it flips to all Trump/Pence (also fine). I just wonder why people put the signs out? The only reason I can think to do so is to try and sway people to agree with you and that your candidate is better. But we all know that ain't working and the odds of somebody in the Trump flotilla having an epiphany and decided that Biden is the better candidate are about the same as one of these folks up here in my area deciding maybe Trump is better. Ain't gonna happen and people just get mad.

So if all were doing is pissing off people that don't think like we do (from both sides), why do we keep flaunting it?

Just thinking about how to really make America better (be nicer pretty much).
  
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 pm
I am curious to know what any Trump supporter thinks they have in common with the man? I can't think of anything that he represents that would not embarrass me to be associated with.  
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Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:09 am
Glacierbaze
In 2016, I was not a Trump supporter but rather a voter against Hillary Clinton.
In 2020, I am a Trump supporter and to directly answer your question:

How about a few shared beliefs such as:
-Appointing judges that will interpret the Constitution rather than legislate from the bench. Our country is much better off with Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and hopefully Coney Barret than we ever would be with Ginsberg and the radical left activist judges

-That the USA should not be funding all of the UN, or NATO and that other member countries can pay their "fair share" (I know you like that term)

-That the middle class was overtaxed (Biden will raise middle class taxes when he reverses the Trump middle class tax cuts)

-That the US is not a systemically racist country

-That the rioters should be held accountable

-That we should be defending police, not defunding them

-That the KKK and Antifa should be declared domestic terrorist organizations

- That preexisting conditions should be protected

- That banning travel to and from China for non US citizens was the right thing to do and not a Xenophobic scare tactic as claimed by Biden. Remember initial models predicted over 2 MILLION American deaths from Covid if Trump did not act. Remember the hysteria around hospitals being overloaded and unable to get PPP.. I don't think a single hospital did not handle the patient count, emergency ships sent to NY and CA, PPP manufactured at repurposed factories....

- That the US should not be part of accords and treaties that do not benefit the US first and foremost

- That the US should be bringing back manufacturing jobs that were exported and we were told "are never coming back"

- That the US economy is better served under a POTUS Trump than a POTUS Biden

- That the US should not be starting wars and intervening in places where our primary interests are not threatened

I know a lot of people hate Trump on a personal level. I grew up in NY and he was on the news all of the time and I was not a fan of his at all. Like I said initially, I was not a Trump voter in 2016 but rather a voter against Hillary. In 2020 he has a record that I support. As we rebuild the economy from the devastation of Covid, who would better manage it and get us back to record low unemployment levels across all demographic groups.. I think that person is POTUS Trump, whether I like him on a personal level or not
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Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:56 am
I think your view on most stances is reasonable. I would tend to slightly disagree about systemic racism in the US (and I honestly don't know a great way to fix it - the history of slavery in this country created a very large rift on social an economic levels such that irreparable damage has been done. One race was basically denied education and property and any rights whatsoever, and a segment of the other was doing whatever it could to hold onto its advantage). It is absolutely possible for persons in the African American sector to climb out of this hole that's been dug for them, but it's insanely harder than for a white person. Just my take on that.

The other thing I question that you've posted is "protecting pre-existing conditions". It's my belief that Trump is against this. Once again - don't know of a good way to fix this, but is awful either way. My BIL lost a leg in a farming accident as a teenager. He's changed health insurance many times since, and none will pay anything related to this because it's a pre-existing condition (until recently). His parents were paying health insurance when it happened and it was appropriately covered at the time. But since then? not so much. He's punished because they had to change health care coverages. Additionally - this means that once a health care company determines that they might have to keep paying for some long term issue you have, they can drop you and you're totally screwed? I get that insurers have to make money too and 'insuring' somebody at a premium of $200 / month when you know they're gonna cost you $300 month is a way to go out of business. But then do we just say that people who have unfortunate accidents...welp...too bad?

I despise the idea of social medicine, because I fear it will lead to an inferior level of care, and you'll no longer attract the brightest and smartest to the profession with the allure of $$$ paying jobs. But at the same time, I don't know that what we've got going on now is really 'fair' to everybody. I really think some level of reform to the whole system would benefit the country because as it is now, what I get for what I pay isn't really that great, especially since I'm mostly healthy. Never mind that my wife an I both work in pharmaceutical industry. It's a mess, but I think what we've got now isn't a good system.

I wouldn't paint RGB as 'radical' either. Left? Absolutely. Radical? Not really. And sometimes you need somebody to shake up status quo (like Trump).
  
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Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:58 am
Squid, if you actually believe all those things, then so be it. But, let's look at the first and last sentences that frame all those beliefs.

"How about a few shared beliefs such as:
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I think that person is POTUS Trump, whether I like him on a personal level or not
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What level do you put so many mutually shared beliefs on, if not personal? What is more personal than core beliefs? And don't say philosophical, because DJT is about as philosophical as a house plant.
It's hard for me to rationalize, "I like what the man stands for, but I don't like the man".
  
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Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
glacierbaze wrote:
Squid, if you actually believe all those things, then so be it. But, let's look at the first and last sentences that frame all those beliefs.

"How about a few shared beliefs such as:
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I think that person is POTUS Trump, whether I like him on a personal level or not
"

What level do you put so many mutually shared beliefs on, if not personal? What is more personal than core beliefs? And don't say philosophical, because DJT is about as philosophical as a house plant.
It's hard for me to rationalize, "I like what the man stands for, but I don't like the man".


Maybe I am missing something here but I don't see where squid said ]"I like what the man stands for, but I don't like the man". Please correct me if I am wrong, but what I read said that he felt like he was the best man for the job regardless of he liked him or if he didn't. Now Squid if I misread your statement, please forgive me. If you are going to "quote someone", you need to make damn sure they said what you are "quoting". If he said it and I cannot find it, please disregard my comments for I am wrong.
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Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:03 pm
Agree with Squid.

The debate was shameful in my opinion.

It was also poorly moderated.

But you better put more stock in what either man can accomplish for the country, rather than whether you like them or not.

Biden is a lifetime lying politician that will do anything to get elected.

Trump is a jackass that happens to know how get sh*t done.

Pick which one you want on your team and vote.

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My apologies for the incorrect punctuation, but I will leave it for the record, so that paynefish's comment makes sense. I was not trying to speak for Squid, but rather to summarize in a sentence my own impression of his rationale, but I can see why that was not clear. I should have posed it as a question, how can you like all these things that you believe the man stands for, and not like the man? (Something from an english class, about 60 years ago, tells me that the question should be capitalized, and set off by quotation, but I will not press my luck)  
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:44 am
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Biden is a lifetime lying politician that will do anything to get elected.

Trump is a jackass that happens to know how get sh*t done.


I'm not gonna say that what you've put up there is wrong, but I think the 'lying' adjective was either underused, or not used in the more appropriate place.
  
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:46 am
glacierbaze wrote:
My apologies for the incorrect punctuation, but I will leave it for the record, so that paynefish's comment makes sense. I was not trying to speak for Squid, but rather to summarize in a sentence my own impression of his rationale, but I can see why that was not clear. I should have posed it as a question, how can you like all these things that you believe the man stands for, and not like the man? (Something from an english class, about 60 years ago, tells me that the question should be capitalized, and set off by quotation, but I will not press my luck)


Glacierbaze… It is very easy to agree with someone's positions and disagree with that same person's behavior or for that matter, disagree with someone's positions and get along great. For example, I don't think you and I have ever met but if we did we could probably enjoy fishing together or having a beverage together while at the same time disagreeing on every policy that comes up for discussion

Like Marker39 said (paraphrased) we have to pick the person who can get the job done. Biden has been there nearly 50 years and has a history of getting caught in lie after lie, he plagiarized speeches, he is on video bragging about using US Financial aid as a hostage to get a prosecutor in Ukraine fired for looking into his son's corrupt business dealings. Trump was impeached by the house for asking for a "favor".. Trump is no saint either but he is better positioned to return our country to the economic powerhouse it was prior to Covid despite being a loud mouthed jackarse most of the time and I think Biden is beholden to the more radical wing of the dem party as he has aligned with Sanders and Ocasio Cortez.

WRT to the debate.. I thought it was a disgrace. Biden was typical Biden. Name calling, smirking and acting the pompous ass. Trump was typical Trump. Interrupting, yelling and acting the pompous ass.
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Well it looks as though we can all agree that both candidates are asses. That's a start fellows. We just gotta pick which ass will move this country forward over the next 4 years. Ya'll have a great day, regardless of which ass you are in favor of :hail lmao
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I think that's about the best way to look at it.

My life was fine under Obama and it hasn't gone to hell under trump like a lot of people say theirs has.

Turn off the TV. Vote how you want, and don't be an ass about it afterwards if your candidate won or lost.
  
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Amen
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