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VPICHEM
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:53 am
Last weekend I was around the Shark hole fishing by myself and around 3P I shut off my engines and started prepping my gear for the ride in. No boats in site. Took around 30 minutes stowing gear and cleaning up, when I look up and see a tug bearing down on me from a distance of around 100 yards at around 25 knots. I was in direct line of getting t-boned. Luckily I got one engine started and backed out of a direct hit.

Obviously the tug was on autopilot with nobody on the bridge watching anything. No change of course, no horn.

If I had been adrift with no power I would have been dead meat.

Please tell me they violated some sort of navigational rule regarding autopilot.

Next time out alone, def do visual checks every 3 min.

That would have been a shitty way to go specially since the fishing sucked. :)
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:15 am
VPICHEM wrote:


Please tell me they violated some sort of navigational rule regarding autopilot.

Next time out alone, def do visual checks every 3 min.

That would have been a shitty way to go specially since the fishing sucked. :)


Yes they did. You are required to keep watch underway.

That said, I had a conversation with the first mate of a freighter a few years ago. He was candid in saying the last thing they worry about is recreational or small boats. Basically said if you want to live stay out of the way. Wasn’t exactly a reassuring conversation.
  
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:18 am
A tug doing 25 knots! Dayum. Yes, there absolutely should of been someone in the wheelhouse. If you got the name of the tug it wouldn’t be hard to report it to the owner/company. Hard to say who was in the right/wrong without being there.  
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VPICHEM
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:48 am
Replies as I expected. Def will keep eyes open next time out.

thx
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm
Never assume the other boat see's you. An active watch is required on all vessels period. In this age of technology there are radar range alarms if you have radar and AIS that identifies vessels in a given area. Negligence on his part surely, but you said it best. Never let your guard down.  
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glacierbaze
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:07 pm
Regulation to keep watch has nothing to do with autopilot, you were both underway, and both bound by the same rule. That the tug might bear the greater share of the blame would be little comfort.  
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:34 pm
Would the tug have hit you on the Port or starboard side ?
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:13 pm
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Would the tug have hit you on the Port or starboard side ?


Okay Captain John. Now you've got my curiosity up. Why would that matter?
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VPICHEM
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:34 am
Would have been a starboard hit. As the previous asked why does it matter.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:37 am
I was not underway, motors off. Clear day, I had my radar off, no need for it.

Regardless, no more than 3 min without visual update when alone.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:10 am
If you are Neither anchored nor moored to a fixed object, you are "Underway". This is why kids on a boat under 13, even when the engines are turned off, must have on a life vest. So, technically, you were "Underway" unless you were anchored.

To the port/starboard question, it has to do with the rules of the road and who must yield.

15. Crossing situations
When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way and avoid crossing ahead of her. The saying is "If to starboard red appear, 'tis your duty to keep clear"."...Act as judgement says is proper: port or starboard, back or stop her."
16. The give-way vessel
The give-way vessel must take early and substantial action to keep well clear.
17. The stand-on vessel
The stand-on vessel shall maintain her course and speed, but she may take action to avoid collision if it becomes clear that the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action, or when so close that collision can no longer be avoided by the actions of the give-way vessel alone. In a crossing situation, the stand-on vessel should avoid turning to port even if the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action. These options for the stand-on vessel do not relieve the give-way vessel of her obligations under the rules.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:11 am
I guess he is implying that the boat approaching from your starboard side would be the stand on vessel making yours the give way vessel. Both have obligation to maneuver to prevent a collision.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 am
Got it . Thanks for the education. As always this site is awesome. Thanks all.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:38 am
Good Point! Taught me something new.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:20 am
If the vessel on your starboard is anywhere from, I think, ten degrees abaft your beam to your bow, it is crossing, and stands on. If it is behind that point, it is overtaking, and gives way.
(If the other vessel's relative bearing stays the same, you are on a collision course)
  
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Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:27 pm
Yes sir. Agreed. You were underway, but not making way. That said. I would have hailed the tug on vhf several times and told him he was on a collision course several times and see if ha said anything. Tell him he needed to mauever to avoid collision.  
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